Walt: The Man Behind the Myth subtitles

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(CROWD CHEERING)

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(CROWD CHEERING)

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VAN DYKE: In 1964,

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on opening night of Mary Poppins,

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Walter Elias Disney had reached

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the pinnacle of his career.

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The man who arrived in Hollywood

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some 40 years earlier

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with a half-finished cartoon

in his suitcase

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had become one of the leading figures

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of filmed entertainment.

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I tried to convince her I was capable

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of making a picture with live actors

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as well as cartoons.

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I didn't know what she thought about...

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VAN DYKE: Who was Walt Disney?

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Even those who worked

with him for years

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often struggled to define the man.

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For many, he remains an enigma.

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Two years after the

Mary Poppins premiere,

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Walt was dead,

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and the enigma began

to pass into myth.

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Walt was born in Chicago in 1901

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to Flora and Elias Disney,

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in a house his father had constructed

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with his own hands.

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Elias was a contractor who

built a number of home

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As well as the church

in the neighborhood.

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When Walt was four,

the Disney family moved

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to Marceline, Missouri.

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Walt would always have

fond memories of Marceline,

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but for the rest of the family,

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farm life was hard.

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His mother was a warm,

loving, wonderful woman.

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I wish I'd known her better.

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My father adored her.

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They were a good family.

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ROY EDWARD: Well, Flora was

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sort of my favorite

grandmother all along.

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She was, uh, more fun

than a barrel of monkeys

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and she loved kids, kind of not unlike

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the way Walt did, I think.

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Um, Elias, was a little more...

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A lot more aloof.

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VAN DYKE:

Walt had three older brothers,

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Herbert, Raymond, and Roy,

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who was eight years older than Walt.

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When he was two years old,

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his mother gave birth ate a little girl.

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Her name was Ruth.

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Elias came down with typhoid.

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He recovered,

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but farming was no longer

possible for him.

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In 1911, the Disney house was sold,

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and the family left for

Kansas City, Missouri.

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In Kansas City, Walt was put to work

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for the first time in his life.

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It was a tough job, too.

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Elias had purchased a newspaper route,

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and counted on his

two boys Walt and Roy

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to service it.

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I was about nine or ten

when I started that,

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but they'd deliver our papers at 4:30,

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then we had to get up and be there

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at 4:30 in the morning.

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The newspaper route

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took a lot of Walt Disney's time,

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and he did not have a lot of time

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for school, and didn't have a lot of time

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to prepare for school,

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and so, um, he wasn't a great student.

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VAN DYKE: At about this time,

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the Disney's moved to a bigger house

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at 3028 Bellefontaine in Kansas City.

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Here Walt became friends with a boy

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named Walt Pfeiffer.

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The Pfeiffers were a jolly crowd

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who took their children

to vaudeville shows

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and the local cinema.

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Walt studied the vaudeville acts

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and memorized the gags.

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The two boys liked

Charlie Chaplin above all,

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and developed a series of skits

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inspired by "The Tramp."

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WALT PFEIFFER:

Together we had a little act.

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He was the straight man

with me as Chaplin...

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VAN DYKE: Elias didn't quite know

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what to make of it.

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DIANE: Elias was probably

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not too much out of style

for patriarchs of his day.

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He sounds a little tough to us now,

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But he did it all for love of his family.

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He just wanted to keep

that family together,

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keep 'em good,

keep the boys out of trouble,

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you know, get 'em

to goin' down the right road,

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and to his credit,

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when Dad wanted to take art lessons,

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wanted to be an artist,

Elias arranged for him

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to have some art lessons,

made it possible for him.

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VAN DYKE: In June of 1917,

Walt graduated

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from the seventh grade

at Benton School.

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The income from the newspaper route

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had enabled Elias to invest

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in a jelly firm in Chicago,

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the O-Zell company,

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and so, while Flora, Elias, and Ruth

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went off to Chicago,

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fifteen-year-old Walt stayed

with his brother Herb

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for the summer.

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He got a job as a news butch,

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selling soda pop and newspapers

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to passengers on the railroad.

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When summer ended,

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Walt joined his parents

and sister in Chicago.

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I think he was pretty thoroughly decided

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that he wanted to do something

with his drawing,

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and he drew some cartoons

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for the school paper.

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SMITH: People say that Walt

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wasn't a great artist, he didn't draw a lot.

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Well, that was true in later years.

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But he had an art talent.

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We have drawings of Walt's that he did

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when he was fifteen years old,

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and these are very good drawings

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for a fifteen-year-old.

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VAN DYKE:

Walt's cartoons now showed

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his growing interest in the Great War

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that was being fought in Europe.

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ROY EDWARD: It was really

the thing to be patriotic

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and to want to help out your country.

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SMITH: Walt was only

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sixteen years old, though.

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There was no way that they were gonna

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let him into the army or the navy.

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Well, finally he heard of a...

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Of a Red Cross Unit forming

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that would take seventeen-year-olds,

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and he figured he could manage that,

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'cause that was only a year off.

(LAUGHS)

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So after his mother had signed

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his passport application,

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he did a little forgery on it

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and changed the birth year.

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So, uh, he became

a seventeen-year-old

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and was able to get into the Red Cross

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with a friend of his from school.

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VAN DYKE: In 1918,

Germany signed an armistice.

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However,

the Red Cross ambulance corps

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still needed more drivers to help

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with post-war operations in France.

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Walt arrived in France

and was put to work

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making deliveries, driving ambulances,

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or chauffeuring important officers.

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He took up smoking.

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It developed into a lifelong addiction.

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Walt painted his truck

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and sent drawings home to magazines.

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They were all rejected.

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By September of 1919,

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the ambulance corps

had finished its work,

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and Walt returned home.

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He no longer thought of himself

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as a kid from Missouri,

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but a grown man

who had seen the world.

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Walt made up his mind

to go back to Kansas City.

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He said, "I wanna be an artist."

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And, of course, Elias was shocked.

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He said, "You can't make

a living as an artist."

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Walt said, "I'm gonna try."

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VAN DYKE: Elias and Flora

moved back to Kansas City.

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Roy, who had been

discharged from the Navy,

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and older brother Herbert

and his wife Louise

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lived with them in the old Disney house

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on Bellefontaine Street.

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Walt decided to join them.

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So there were quite a lot of us there.

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There were five children

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and, uh, they were all living at home.

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I had lots of, uh, wonderful uncles

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who just thought I was the cutest,

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and so I'm afraid I might

have been a bit spoiled.

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VAN DYKE: Shortly thereafter,

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Walt got a job at the

Pesman-Rubin Art Studio.

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while at Pesman-Rubin,

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he met a quiet, but highly

talented young man

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named Ub Iwerks.

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The two young men started

a little company of their own.

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SMITH: They weren't able

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to make much of a living with this.

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I mean, they were just

barely making enough

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to get by,

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and then they saw an ad in the paper

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for the Kansas City Slide Company,

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and so Walt left Ub

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to run the partnership,

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and, uh, he was hired,

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and eventually Ub joined him there.

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VAN DYKE: It was at

Kansas City film ad

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that Walt was first introduced

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to animated films, cartoons.

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Of course, they were very

crude things then,

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and I used, uh,

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oh, sort of little puppet things.

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We didn't draw them like we do today.

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I used to make little cut-out things,

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and joints were pinned,

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and we'd put 'em under the camera

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and we'd maneuver them

and make 'em do things.

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VAN DYKE: Walt spent hours

at the Kansas City Library

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223 00:09:24,630 00:09:26,132 LEARNING ABOUT ANIMATION. LEARNING ABOUT ANIMATION.

224 00:09:26,132 00:09:29,135 IT WAS HERE THAT HE CAME ACROSS A 19th-CENTURY BOOK IT WAS HERE THAT HE CAME ACROSS A 19th-CENTURY BOOK

225 00:09:29,135 00:09:31,637 BY A BRITISH ARTIST NAMED EADWEARD MUYBRIDGE BY A BRITISH ARTIST NAMED EADWEARD MUYBRIDGE

226 00:09:32,138 00:09:33,639 ON ANIMAL AND HUMAN LOCOMOTION. ON ANIMAL AND HUMAN LOCOMOTION.

227 00:09:34,140 00:09:34,140 ON ANIMAL AND HUMAN LOCOMOTION. ON ANIMAL AND HUMAN LOCOMOTION.

228 00:09:37,143 00:09:38,644 PEOPLE DON'T NOTICE THAT, PEOPLE DON'T NOTICE THAT,

229 00:09:38,644 00:09:40,146 THAT THE TERM "ANIMATION" THAT THE TERM "ANIMATION"

230 00:09:40,146 00:09:43,149 WAS FIRST NOTICED BY A MAN NAMED, UH-- WAS FIRST NOTICED BY A MAN NAMED, UH--

231 00:09:43,149 00:09:44,650 NAMED NOAH WEBSTER NAMED NOAH WEBSTER

232 00:09:44,650 00:09:48,154 WHO WAS WRITING A DICTIONARY IN 1837, WHO WAS WRITING A DICTIONARY IN 1837,

233 00:09:48,154 00:09:51,657 AND HE RAN ACROSS THIS WORD "ANIMATION," AND HE RAN ACROSS THIS WORD "ANIMATION,"

234 00:09:51,657 00:09:55,161 AND HE WROTE UNDER IT, "TO EVOKE LIFE." AND HE WROTE UNDER IT, "TO EVOKE LIFE."

235 00:09:55,161 00:09:57,163 WELL, IN AMERICA DURING THE TWENTIES, WELL, IN AMERICA DURING THE TWENTIES,

236 00:09:57,163 00:09:59,165 THE ANIMATION INDUSTRY WAS REALLY CENTERED THE ANIMATION INDUSTRY WAS REALLY CENTERED

237 00:09:59,665 00:10:01,167 ON NEW YORK CITY. ON NEW YORK CITY.

238 00:10:01,667 00:10:02,668 THAT'S WHERE THE FIRST STUDIOS THAT'S WHERE THE FIRST STUDIOS

239 00:10:03,169 00:10:05,171 HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND THAT'S WHERE HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND THAT'S WHERE

240 00:10:05,171 00:10:07,673 THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THEM STILL WERE. THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THEM STILL WERE.

241 00:10:08,174 00:10:09,675 AT THAT TIME, AT THAT TIME,

242 00:10:09,675 00:10:10,676 THERE WERE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT THERE WERE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT

243 00:10:11,177 00:10:14,180 OF SILENT ONE-REEL COMEDIES OF SILENT ONE-REEL COMEDIES

244 00:10:14,180 00:10:17,683 BEING PUT OUT TO SHOW IN THE MOVIE THEATERS. BEING PUT OUT TO SHOW IN THE MOVIE THEATERS.

245 00:10:17,683 00:10:17,683 BEING PUT OUT TO SHOW IN THE MOVIE THEATERS. BEING PUT OUT TO SHOW IN THE MOVIE THEATERS.

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VAN DYKE:

Walt took a borrowed camera

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247 00:10:22,188 00:10:23,689 TO THE SHED BEHIND HIS HOUSE TO THE SHED BEHIND HIS HOUSE

248 00:10:23,689 00:10:26,192 AND BEGAN MAKING CARTOONS OF HIS OWN. AND BEGAN MAKING CARTOONS OF HIS OWN.

249 00:10:26,192 00:10:28,694 HE CALLED THEM LAUGH-O-GRAMS HE CALLED THEM LAUGH-O-GRAMS

250 00:10:28,694 00:10:30,696 AND SOLD THE FIRST ONE TO THE NEWMAN THEATER AND SOLD THE FIRST ONE TO THE NEWMAN THEATER

251 00:10:31,197 00:10:33,699 IN KANSAS CITY. IN KANSAS CITY.

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KAUFMAN: And one of the great things

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253 00:10:35,201 00:10:37,203 ABOUT IT, I THINK, IS THAT IT OPENS ABOUT IT, I THINK, IS THAT IT OPENS

254 00:10:37,703 00:10:39,705 WITH THAT WONDERFUL SHOT OF WALT SITTING WITH THAT WONDERFUL SHOT OF WALT SITTING

255 00:10:40,206 00:10:42,208 AT HIS DRAWING BOARD. THIS IS WALT DISNEY AT HIS DRAWING BOARD. THIS IS WALT DISNEY

256 00:10:42,208 00:10:43,709 AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS JOURNEY, AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS JOURNEY,

257 00:10:43,709 00:10:46,212 AND WE HAVE A PRIVILEGED GLIMPSE OF IT. AND WE HAVE A PRIVILEGED GLIMPSE OF IT.

258 00:10:46,212 00:10:48,714 IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE HE MOVED OUT OF ANIMATION IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE HE MOVED OUT OF ANIMATION

259 00:10:48,714 00:10:50,716 AND HAD OTHER PEOPLE WORKING WITH HIM AND HAD OTHER PEOPLE WORKING WITH HIM

260 00:10:50,716 00:10:53,219 IN THE ACTUAL DRAWING OF THE PICTURES. IN THE ACTUAL DRAWING OF THE PICTURES.

261 00:10:53,219 00:10:55,221 BUT THIS IS ONE SEGMENT THAT WE CAN SAY BUT THIS IS ONE SEGMENT THAT WE CAN SAY

262 00:10:55,221 00:10:57,223 IS FULLY ANIMATED BY WALT DISNEY HIMSELF. IS FULLY ANIMATED BY WALT DISNEY HIMSELF.

263 00:10:57,223 00:10:57,223 IS FULLY ANIMATED BY WALT DISNEY HIMSELF. IS FULLY ANIMATED BY WALT DISNEY HIMSELF.

264 00:11:07,733 00:11:10,736 I THINK HE REALLY WANTED TO GET INTO FULL ANIMATION, I THINK HE REALLY WANTED TO GET INTO FULL ANIMATION,

265 00:11:10,736 00:11:13,239 AND HE REALIZED JUST FROM THE LABORIOUS NATURE AND HE REALIZED JUST FROM THE LABORIOUS NATURE

266 00:11:13,239 00:11:17,243 OF LITTLE SHORT SCENES LIKE THE POLICE STATION SCENE OF LITTLE SHORT SCENES LIKE THE POLICE STATION SCENE

267 00:11:17,243 00:11:19,245 THAT THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING

268 00:11:19,245 00:11:21,747 THAT ONE PERSON WANTED TO DO ALONE. THAT ONE PERSON WANTED TO DO ALONE.

269 00:11:21,747 00:11:23,249 SO THAT'S WHEN HE RE-- SO THAT'S WHEN HE RE--

270 00:11:23,249 00:11:25,251 HE WENT AROUND AND RECRUITED PEOPLE HE WENT AROUND AND RECRUITED PEOPLE

271 00:11:25,251 00:11:28,254 TO START THE LAUGH-O-GRAMS COMPANY, TO START THE LAUGH-O-GRAMS COMPANY,

272 00:11:28,254 00:11:32,258 AND THEY MADE FILMS WHICH ARE REFERRED TO TODAY AND THEY MADE FILMS WHICH ARE REFERRED TO TODAY

273 00:11:32,258 00:11:33,259 AS MODERNIZED FAIRY TALES. AS MODERNIZED FAIRY TALES.

274 00:11:33,759 00:11:36,262 BASICALLY, WHAT THEY DID WAS TAKE A FAIRY TALE, BASICALLY, WHAT THEY DID WAS TAKE A FAIRY TALE,

275 00:11:36,262 00:11:39,765 BUT THEN DO A CONTEMPORARY SPIN ON IT. BUT THEN DO A CONTEMPORARY SPIN ON IT.

276 00:11:39,765 00:11:41,767 SO WHEN HE DOES HIS VERSION SO WHEN HE DOES HIS VERSION

277 00:11:41,767 00:11:44,270 OFPUSS IN BOOTS, FOR EXAMPLE, OFPUSS IN BOOTS, FOR EXAMPLE,

278 00:11:44,270 00:11:47,273 THIS IS THE CAT WITH HIS MASTER THIS IS THE CAT WITH HIS MASTER

279 00:11:47,773 00:11:50,776 GOING TO THE MOVIES AND SEEING A PARODY GOING TO THE MOVIES AND SEEING A PARODY

280 00:11:50,776 00:11:53,279 OF THE LATEST RUDOLPH VALENTINO PICTURE. OF THE LATEST RUDOLPH VALENTINO PICTURE.

281 00:11:53,279 00:11:53,279 OF THE LATEST RUDOLPH VALENTINO PICTURE. OF THE LATEST RUDOLPH VALENTINO PICTURE.

282 00:11:58,284 00:12:00,286 THESE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF KIDS. THESE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF KIDS.

283 00:12:00,286 00:12:03,289 THEY DON'T HAVE A WORLDWIDE ORGANIZATION BEHIND THEM. THEY DON'T HAVE A WORLDWIDE ORGANIZATION BEHIND THEM.

284 00:12:03,289 00:12:05,291 THESE ARE A BUNCH OF BOYHOOD FRIENDS THESE ARE A BUNCH OF BOYHOOD FRIENDS

285 00:12:05,291 00:12:07,293 WHO HAVE DEVELOPED A COMMON INTEREST WHO HAVE DEVELOPED A COMMON INTEREST

286 00:12:07,293 00:12:10,296 IN ANIMATED CARTOONS AND WANT TO GIVE IT A WHIRL. IN ANIMATED CARTOONS AND WANT TO GIVE IT A WHIRL.

287 00:12:10,796 00:12:13,299 SO THEY'RE DOING THINGS BY TRIAL AND ERROR, SO THEY'RE DOING THINGS BY TRIAL AND ERROR,

288 00:12:13,299 00:12:16,802 THEY ARE LEARNING TECHNIQUES AS THEY GO ALONG, THEY ARE LEARNING TECHNIQUES AS THEY GO ALONG,

289 00:12:17,303 00:12:18,804 AND YOU GET TO SEE THEM DOING THAT AND YOU GET TO SEE THEM DOING THAT

290 00:12:18,804 00:12:21,307 AS YOU WATCH THE FILMS. IT'S VERY IMPROMPTU AS YOU WATCH THE FILMS. IT'S VERY IMPROMPTU

291 00:12:21,307 00:12:23,809 AND IT'S--IT'S, WELL, JUST A LOT OF FUN. AND IT'S--IT'S, WELL, JUST A LOT OF FUN.

292 00:12:24,310 00:12:24,310 AND IT'S--IT'S, WELL, JUST A LOT OF FUN. AND IT'S--IT'S, WELL, JUST A LOT OF FUN.

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DOROTHY: And I was

carrying a full milk bottle,

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294 00:12:29,815 00:12:31,817 AND THEN HE REVERSED THE FILM AND THEN HE REVERSED THE FILM

295 00:12:31,817 00:12:33,819 SO THAT I BACKED UP, SO THAT I BACKED UP,

296 00:12:34,320 00:12:36,822 THE MILK ALL CAME UP IN THE BOTTLE. THE MILK ALL CAME UP IN THE BOTTLE.

297 00:12:36,822 00:12:39,325 THAT WAS ONE LITTLE FILM THAT WE DID. THAT WAS ONE LITTLE FILM THAT WE DID.

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VAN DYKE:

Roy developed tuberculosis

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299 00:12:42,328 00:12:44,330 AND WAS SENT TO A SANITARIUM. AND WAS SENT TO A SANITARIUM.

300 00:12:44,330 00:12:46,332 HERBERT AND HIS FAMILY WERE TRANSFERRED HERBERT AND HIS FAMILY WERE TRANSFERRED

301 00:12:46,332 00:12:48,334 BY THE POSTAL SERVICE TO A NEW JOB BY THE POSTAL SERVICE TO A NEW JOB

302 00:12:48,834 00:12:52,338 IN PORTLAND, OREGON. IN PORTLAND, OREGON.

303 00:12:52,338 00:12:53,839 ELIAS AND FLORA DECIDED ELIAS AND FLORA DECIDED

304 00:12:53,839 00:12:56,842 TO JOIN THEM IN PORTLAND AS WELL. TO JOIN THEM IN PORTLAND AS WELL.

305 00:12:56,842 00:13:00,846 THE CROWDED HOUSE ON BELLEFONTAINE FELL EMPTY. THE CROWDED HOUSE ON BELLEFONTAINE FELL EMPTY.

306 00:13:01,347 00:13:03,349 ONE MORNING, WALT ACCOMPANIED HIS PARENTS ONE MORNING, WALT ACCOMPANIED HIS PARENTS

307 00:13:03,349 00:13:04,350 AND HIS SISTER RUTH AND HIS SISTER RUTH

308 00:13:04,350 00:13:06,352 TO THE KANSAS CITY UNION STATION TO THE KANSAS CITY UNION STATION

309 00:13:06,352 00:13:09,355 FOR A TEARFUL FAREWELL. FOR A TEARFUL FAREWELL.

310 00:13:09,855 00:13:12,358 "WHEN WALT TOOK US TO THE TRAIN, "WHEN WALT TOOK US TO THE TRAIN,

311 00:13:12,358 00:13:15,361 "I NEVER KNEW WALT'S EMOTIONS MUCH, "I NEVER KNEW WALT'S EMOTIONS MUCH,

312 00:13:15,361 00:13:17,863 "BUT HE COULDN'T KEEP HIS FACE STRAIGHT. "BUT HE COULDN'T KEEP HIS FACE STRAIGHT.

313 00:13:18,364 00:13:20,366 "HE SUDDENLY TURNED AND LEFT. "HE SUDDENLY TURNED AND LEFT.

314 00:13:20,366 00:13:23,369 "HE WAS UPSET, VERY UPSET. "HE WAS UPSET, VERY UPSET.

315 00:13:23,869 00:13:28,374 HE REALIZED THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE ALONE THEN." HE REALIZED THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE ALONE THEN."

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VAN DYKE: On May 23rd, 1922,

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317 00:13:31,377 00:13:32,878 WALT OFFICIALLY INCORPORATED WALT OFFICIALLY INCORPORATED

318 00:13:33,379 00:13:36,382 LAUGH-O-GRAM FILMS IN A 2-ROOM SUITE LAUGH-O-GRAM FILMS IN A 2-ROOM SUITE

319 00:13:36,382 00:13:37,883 IN THE McCONAHAY BUILDING. IN THE McCONAHAY BUILDING.

320 00:13:37,883 00:13:39,885 HE WAS 20 YEARS OLD. HE WAS 20 YEARS OLD.

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KAUFMAN: When pictorial clubs

signed the contract

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322 00:13:42,888 00:13:45,391 FOR THE LAUGH-O-GRAMS, THE CONTRACT SPECIFIED FOR THE LAUGH-O-GRAMS, THE CONTRACT SPECIFIED

323 00:13:45,891 00:13:48,394 THAT DISNEY AND HIS COWORKERS THAT DISNEY AND HIS COWORKERS

324 00:13:48,394 00:13:50,396 WERE TO GET $11,100. WERE TO GET $11,100.

325 00:13:50,396 00:13:52,398 WHAT THEY GOT WAS THE $100. WHAT THEY GOT WAS THE $100.

326 00:13:52,398 00:13:54,400 THAT WAS IT. THE CONTRACT WAS SET UP THAT WAS IT. THE CONTRACT WAS SET UP

327 00:13:54,900 00:13:56,902 SO THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET THE REST OF THE MONEY SO THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET THE REST OF THE MONEY

328 00:13:57,403 00:13:58,904 A LONG WAY DOWN THE ROAD, A LONG WAY DOWN THE ROAD,

329 00:13:58,904 00:14:00,906 BUT, UH, CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH, BUT, UH, CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH,

330 00:14:01,407 00:14:03,909 PICTORIAL CLUBS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS BEFORE THAT. PICTORIAL CLUBS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS BEFORE THAT.

331 00:14:03,909 00:14:03,909 PICTORIAL CLUBS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS BEFORE THAT. PICTORIAL CLUBS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS BEFORE THAT.

332 00:14:07,413 00:14:09,415 UH, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UH, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

333 00:14:09,415 00:14:12,918 WOULD BE TEMPTED TO BECOME VERY CONSERVATIVE WOULD BE TEMPTED TO BECOME VERY CONSERVATIVE

334 00:14:12,918 00:14:14,920 AND DO SOMETHING EASY AND SAFE. AND DO SOMETHING EASY AND SAFE.

335 00:14:15,421 00:14:17,423 WHAT DISNEY DOES IS GO OUT AND BLOW IT ALL WHAT DISNEY DOES IS GO OUT AND BLOW IT ALL

336 00:14:17,423 00:14:20,426 ON THE MOST LAVISH FILM HE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE, ON THE MOST LAVISH FILM HE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE,

337 00:14:20,426 00:14:22,428 AND IT WAS CALLED ALICE'S WONDERLAND. AND IT WAS CALLED ALICE'S WONDERLAND.

338 00:14:22,928 00:14:24,430 WELL, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAD BEEN EXPERIMENTING WELL, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAD BEEN EXPERIMENTING

339 00:14:24,930 00:14:25,931 DURING THE TWENTIES DURING THE TWENTIES

340 00:14:25,931 00:14:28,434 WITH LIVE ACTION/ANIMATION COMBINATIONS. WITH LIVE ACTION/ANIMATION COMBINATIONS.

341 00:14:28,934 00:14:30,936 BUT THE STANDARD WAY OF DOING THAT, BUT THE STANDARD WAY OF DOING THAT,

342 00:14:30,936 00:14:32,938 WHICH THE FLEISCHERS HAD REALLY PIONEERED, WHICH THE FLEISCHERS HAD REALLY PIONEERED,

343 00:14:33,439 00:14:35,941 WAS TO PUT AN ANIMATED CHARACTER WAS TO PUT AN ANIMATED CHARACTER

344 00:14:35,941 00:14:37,943 INTO A LIVE ACTION WORLD. INTO A LIVE ACTION WORLD.

345 00:14:38,244 00:14:40,946 WALT REVERSED IT TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW WALT REVERSED IT TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW

346 00:14:40,946 00:14:42,948 AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT VERY TYPICALLY, AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT VERY TYPICALLY,

347 00:14:42,948 00:14:44,950 AND PUT THE LIVE ACTION CHARACTER AND PUT THE LIVE ACTION CHARACTER

348 00:14:44,950 00:14:46,452 INTO THE ANIMATED WORLD, INTO THE ANIMATED WORLD,

349 00:14:46,952 00:14:47,953 WHICH REALLY HADN'T BEEN BEFORE, WHICH REALLY HADN'T BEEN BEFORE,

350 00:14:48,454 00:14:50,456 OR DONE VERY LITTLE. OR DONE VERY LITTLE.

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KAUFMAN: In the first part

of the film, of course,

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352 00:14:52,458 00:14:53,959 SHE GOES INTO THE CARTOON STUDIO, SHE GOES INTO THE CARTOON STUDIO,

353 00:14:54,460 00:14:56,962 SO YOU GET THIS KIND OF WONDERFUL, WHIMSICAL LOOK SO YOU GET THIS KIND OF WONDERFUL, WHIMSICAL LOOK

354 00:14:56,962 00:14:59,465 AT A CARTOON STUDIO THROUGH A CHILD'S EYES. AT A CARTOON STUDIO THROUGH A CHILD'S EYES.

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VIRGINIA: The name of the first film,

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356 00:15:00,966 00:15:03,469 WHICH WAS THE TEST FILM THAT HE USED, WHICH WAS THE TEST FILM THAT HE USED,

357 00:15:03,469 00:15:05,471 WAS CALLED ALICE'S WONDERLAND, WAS CALLED ALICE'S WONDERLAND,

358 00:15:05,471 00:15:07,473 AND IT WAS SHOT IN MY MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND IT WAS SHOT IN MY MOTHER'S HOUSE,

359 00:15:07,973 00:15:09,975 AT LEAST THE LIVE ACTION PART OF IT, AT LEAST THE LIVE ACTION PART OF IT,

360 00:15:09,975 00:15:11,977 AND THAT IS WHERE AND THAT IS WHERE

361 00:15:11,977 00:15:14,480 HE INTRODUCED THE IDEA OF THE CARTOONS. HE INTRODUCED THE IDEA OF THE CARTOONS.

362 00:15:14,480 00:15:16,982 AND WHEN I CAME HOME, AND WHEN I CAME HOME,

363 00:15:16,982 00:15:18,984 I WAS TO BE PUT TO BED, I WAS TO BE PUT TO BED,

364 00:15:18,984 00:15:21,487 AND THEN I DREAMT THE WHOLE SEQUENCE AND THEN I DREAMT THE WHOLE SEQUENCE

365 00:15:21,987 00:15:23,989 OF THEALICECARTOONS, OF THEALICECARTOONS,

366 00:15:23,989 00:15:26,992 AND HE'D SAY, YOU KNOW, "RUN. MOVE YOUR ARMS. AND HE'D SAY, YOU KNOW, "RUN. MOVE YOUR ARMS.

367 00:15:26,992 00:15:28,994 MOVE YOUR ARMS LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING." MOVE YOUR ARMS LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING."

368 00:15:28,994 00:15:28,994 MOVE YOUR ARMS LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING." MOVE YOUR ARMS LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING."

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VAN DYKE: Halfway

through the production,

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370 00:15:32,498 00:15:33,999 WALT WAS BROKE. WALT WAS BROKE.

371 00:15:33,999 00:15:36,502 LAUGH-O-GRAMS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. LAUGH-O-GRAMS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.

372 00:15:36,502 00:15:41,507 IN JULY OF 1923, WALT SOLD HIS MOVIE CAMERA. IN JULY OF 1923, WALT SOLD HIS MOVIE CAMERA.

373 00:15:41,507 00:15:44,009 HE WOULD GO WHERE ALL THE MOVIEMAKERS GO-- HE WOULD GO WHERE ALL THE MOVIEMAKERS GO--

374 00:15:44,009 00:15:46,512 HE WOULD HEAD FOR HOLLYWOOD. HE WOULD HEAD FOR HOLLYWOOD.

375 00:15:46,512 00:15:46,512 HE WOULD HEAD FOR HOLLYWOOD. HE WOULD HEAD FOR HOLLYWOOD.

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DISNEY: It was a big day,

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377 00:15:54,019 00:15:56,522 THE DAY I GOT ON THE SANTE FE RAILROAD-- THE DAY I GOT ON THE SANTE FE RAILROAD--

378 00:15:56,522 00:15:58,524 THE CALIFORNIA RAILROAD. THE CALIFORNIA RAILROAD.

379 00:15:58,524 00:16:01,026 3 1/2 DAYS, YOU KNOW? 3 1/2 DAYS, YOU KNOW?

380 00:16:01,026 00:16:02,528 BUT I'D FAILED, BUT I'D FAILED,

381 00:16:02,528 00:16:04,029 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT

382 00:16:04,029 00:16:07,032 TO HAVE A GOOD FAILURE WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG. TO HAVE A GOOD FAILURE WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG.

383 00:16:07,032 00:16:08,033 I CAME TO HOLLYWOOD. I CAME TO HOLLYWOOD.

384 00:16:08,534 00:16:10,035 THERE WAS JUST ONE THING I WANTED TO DO. THERE WAS JUST ONE THING I WANTED TO DO.

385 00:16:10,035 00:16:12,037 I WANTED TO GET INTO THE MOTION PICTURE BUSINESS. I WANTED TO GET INTO THE MOTION PICTURE BUSINESS.

386 00:16:12,037 00:16:13,539 I WANTED TO BE A DIRECTOR. I WANTED TO BE A DIRECTOR.

387 00:16:13,539 00:16:16,041 THAT WAS MY AMBITION AND GOAL, BE A DIRECTOR. THAT WAS MY AMBITION AND GOAL, BE A DIRECTOR.

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VAN DYKE: Walt moved in

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389 00:16:17,543 00:16:19,044 WITH HIS UNCLE ROBERT DISNEY. WITH HIS UNCLE ROBERT DISNEY.

390 00:16:19,545 00:16:21,547 HE THEN SET OUT TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR HE THEN SET OUT TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR

391 00:16:21,547 00:16:24,550 OF EVERY STUDIO IN TOWN. OF EVERY STUDIO IN TOWN.

392 00:16:24,550 00:16:27,052 BUT THEY ALL TURNED HIM DOWN. BUT THEY ALL TURNED HIM DOWN.

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DISNEY: That was my only

marketing, get in.

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394 00:16:29,054 00:16:31,056 NOT CHOOSE, BUT GET IN. NOT CHOOSE, BUT GET IN.

395 00:16:31,056 00:16:32,558 BE A PART OF IT, AND THEN MOVE UP. BE A PART OF IT, AND THEN MOVE UP.

396 00:16:32,558 00:16:34,059 WHAT THE HELL, SWEEP THE FLOOR. WHAT THE HELL, SWEEP THE FLOOR.

397 00:16:34,059 00:16:35,561 I DON'T CARE. GET A-- I DON'T CARE. GET A--

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VAN DYKE: At first,

Walt avoided animation.

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399 00:16:38,063 00:16:40,065 HE BELIEVED HE WAS TOO LATE TO COMPETE HE BELIEVED HE WAS TOO LATE TO COMPETE

400 00:16:40,566 00:16:42,568 WITH THE BIG STUDIOS IN NEW YORK. WITH THE BIG STUDIOS IN NEW YORK.

401 00:16:42,568 00:16:45,070 BUT WHEN NO OPPORTUNITIES OPENED UP, BUT WHEN NO OPPORTUNITIES OPENED UP,

402 00:16:45,070 00:16:48,574 HE RETURNED TO ANIMATION. HE RETURNED TO ANIMATION.

403 00:16:48,574 00:16:49,575 UNCLE ROBERT DISNEY UNCLE ROBERT DISNEY

404 00:16:49,575 00:16:51,577 WAS A GRUFF, CIGAR-CHOMPING FELLOW WAS A GRUFF, CIGAR-CHOMPING FELLOW

405 00:16:51,577 00:16:53,078 WHO COULD BE PERSUADED TO HELP WHO COULD BE PERSUADED TO HELP

406 00:16:53,078 00:16:55,581 WHEN WALT NEEDED HIM. WHEN WALT NEEDED HIM.

407 00:16:55,581 00:16:58,083 HE HAD A PLEASANT HOUSE ON KINGSWELL AVENUE, HE HAD A PLEASANT HOUSE ON KINGSWELL AVENUE,

408 00:16:58,083 00:17:02,588 AND ALLOWED WALT TO TURN HIS GARAGE INTO A STUDIO. AND ALLOWED WALT TO TURN HIS GARAGE INTO A STUDIO.

409 00:17:03,088 00:17:05,090 WALT THEN SENT THE UNFINISHED PRINT WALT THEN SENT THE UNFINISHED PRINT

410 00:17:05,090 00:17:08,093 OFALICE'S WONDERLAND TO A CARTOON DISTRIBUTOR OFALICE'S WONDERLAND TO A CARTOON DISTRIBUTOR

411 00:17:08,093 00:17:10,095 NAMED MARGARET WINKLER. NAMED MARGARET WINKLER.

412 00:17:10,095 00:17:14,600 ON OCTOBER 15, WINKLER SENT A TELEGRAM BACK. ON OCTOBER 15, WINKLER SENT A TELEGRAM BACK.

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BOB: So Walt came out

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414 00:17:16,101 00:17:19,104 TO ROY'S BARRACKS AND SAID, UH, TO ROY'S BARRACKS AND SAID, UH,

415 00:17:19,104 00:17:22,107 "ROY, I'VE GOT A DEAL WITH A NEW YORK DISTRIBUTOR, "ROY, I'VE GOT A DEAL WITH A NEW YORK DISTRIBUTOR,

416 00:17:22,107 00:17:24,109 "AND I WANT YOU TO COME IN WITH ME. "AND I WANT YOU TO COME IN WITH ME.

417 00:17:24,109 00:17:25,110 I NEED YOUR HELP." I NEED YOUR HELP."

418 00:17:25,611 00:17:27,613 AND, UH, ROY LEFT THE HOSPITAL, AND, UH, ROY LEFT THE HOSPITAL,

419 00:17:27,613 00:17:29,114 NEVER WENT BACK, NEVER WENT BACK,

420 00:17:29,114 00:17:32,117 NEVER HAD A RECURRENCE OF T.B., AND THAT'S HOW NEVER HAD A RECURRENCE OF T.B., AND THAT'S HOW

421 00:17:32,117 00:17:35,621 THE DISNEY BROTHERS STUDIO WAS FORMED. THE DISNEY BROTHERS STUDIO WAS FORMED.

422 00:17:35,621 00:17:38,123 DAD WOULD'VE BEEN PRESIDENT OF THE BANK IN KANSAS CITY, DAD WOULD'VE BEEN PRESIDENT OF THE BANK IN KANSAS CITY,

423 00:17:38,123 00:17:40,125 I HAVE ALWAYS SAID. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID.

424 00:17:40,125 00:17:41,627 DAD, BEING OLDER, DAD, BEING OLDER,

425 00:17:41,627 00:17:43,128 AND HAVING BEEN HIS BABYSITTER AND HAVING BEEN HIS BABYSITTER

426 00:17:43,128 00:17:45,631 FOR A LONG TIME WHEN HE WAS A KID, FOR A LONG TIME WHEN HE WAS A KID,

427 00:17:45,631 00:17:47,132 I THINK, ALWAYS CARRIED AROUND I THINK, ALWAYS CARRIED AROUND

428 00:17:47,633 00:17:49,134 A BIT OF THAT WITH HIM. A BIT OF THAT WITH HIM.

429 00:17:49,134 00:17:49,134 A BIT OF THAT WITH HIM. A BIT OF THAT WITH HIM.

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VAN DYKE:

Walt sent for Virginia Davis,

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431 00:17:52,638 00:17:54,139 THE STAR OF THE SERIES. THE STAR OF THE SERIES.

432 00:17:54,139 00:17:56,642 HER FAMILY MOVED TO CALIFORNIA. HER FAMILY MOVED TO CALIFORNIA.

433 00:17:56,642 00:17:59,645 WALT BOUGHT A SECOND-HAND CAMERA FOR $200 WALT BOUGHT A SECOND-HAND CAMERA FOR $200

434 00:17:59,645 00:18:01,647 AND SET UP SHOP IN A SMALL STORE AND SET UP SHOP IN A SMALL STORE

435 00:18:02,147 00:18:05,150 ON KINGSWELL AVENUE. ON KINGSWELL AVENUE.

436 00:18:05,150 00:18:07,653 A FEW MONTHS LATER, HE ASKED UB IWERKS A FEW MONTHS LATER, HE ASKED UB IWERKS

437 00:18:07,653 00:18:09,154 TO JOIN HIM. TO JOIN HIM.

438 00:18:09,154 00:18:09,154 TO JOIN HIM. TO JOIN HIM.

439 00:18:14,159 00:18:16,161 WALT AND ROY TOOK AN UPSTAIRS ROOM WALT AND ROY TOOK AN UPSTAIRS ROOM

440 00:18:16,662 00:18:18,664 IN A HOUSE OPPOSITE UNCLE ROBERT'S. IN A HOUSE OPPOSITE UNCLE ROBERT'S.

441 00:18:18,664 00:18:20,165 BUT THE PLACE WAS SMALL, BUT THE PLACE WAS SMALL,

442 00:18:20,666 00:18:23,669 AND THE 2 MEN GOT ON EACH OTHER'S NERVES. AND THE 2 MEN GOT ON EACH OTHER'S NERVES.

443 00:18:23,669 00:18:26,672 WITH A STEADY INCOME NOW SECURE, ROY DECIDED WITH A STEADY INCOME NOW SECURE, ROY DECIDED

444 00:18:26,672 00:18:29,675 TO PROPOSE TO HIS CHILDHOOD SWEETHEART, EDNA. TO PROPOSE TO HIS CHILDHOOD SWEETHEART, EDNA.

445 00:18:30,175 00:18:32,177 SHE ACCEPTED. SHE ACCEPTED.

446 00:18:32,177 00:18:34,179 WALT, MEANWHILE, WAS SMITTEN WALT, MEANWHILE, WAS SMITTEN

447 00:18:34,179 00:18:36,181 WITH A YOUNG WOMAN HE'D HIRED WITH A YOUNG WOMAN HE'D HIRED

448 00:18:36,181 00:18:37,683 TO INK AND PAINT THE CELLULOIDS. TO INK AND PAINT THE CELLULOIDS.

449 00:18:38,183 00:18:40,686 HER NAME WAS LILLIAN BOUNDS. HER NAME WAS LILLIAN BOUNDS.

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DIANE: My mother was

born in Spalding, Idaho,

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451 00:18:44,189 00:18:46,191 A TOWN THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE, A TOWN THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE,

452 00:18:46,191 00:18:48,694 IN 1899. IN 1899.

453 00:18:48,694 00:18:53,699 THE FAMILY MOVED VERY NEARBY TO LAPWAI. THE FAMILY MOVED VERY NEARBY TO LAPWAI.

454 00:18:53,699 00:18:56,201 IT WAS THE NEZ PERCE INDIAN RESERVATION IT WAS THE NEZ PERCE INDIAN RESERVATION

455 00:18:56,201 00:18:58,203 IN LAPWAI, AND SHE WENT TO SCHOOL IN LAPWAI, AND SHE WENT TO SCHOOL

456 00:18:58,704 00:19:00,205 AT THE-- ON THE RESERVATION, AT THE-- ON THE RESERVATION,

457 00:19:00,205 00:19:03,208 AND AFTER A CERTAIN BIT OF TIME HAD LAPSED AND AFTER A CERTAIN BIT OF TIME HAD LAPSED

458 00:19:03,208 00:19:04,209 AFTER HER FATHER'S DEATH, AFTER HER FATHER'S DEATH,

459 00:19:04,209 00:19:06,712 MY AUNT HAZEL, HER NEAREST SISTER, MY AUNT HAZEL, HER NEAREST SISTER,

460 00:19:07,212 00:19:08,213 WAS IN LOS ANGELES WAS IN LOS ANGELES

461 00:19:08,213 00:19:10,215 AND URGED HER TO COME DOWN, AND URGED HER TO COME DOWN,

462 00:19:10,215 00:19:12,718 SO SHE LEFT HER MOTHER WITH HER BROTHER SID SO SHE LEFT HER MOTHER WITH HER BROTHER SID

463 00:19:12,718 00:19:14,720 AND WENT DOWN TO LOS ANGELES, AND WENT DOWN TO LOS ANGELES,

464 00:19:14,720 00:19:17,222 AND A YOUNG WOMAN SHE MET, A FRIEND OF HAZEL'S, AND A YOUNG WOMAN SHE MET, A FRIEND OF HAZEL'S,

465 00:19:17,222 00:19:19,224 SAID, "YOU KNOW, I CAN GET YOU A JOB. SAID, "YOU KNOW, I CAN GET YOU A JOB.

466 00:19:19,224 00:19:21,226 "THERE'S A YOUNG GUY DOWN THE STREET "THERE'S A YOUNG GUY DOWN THE STREET

467 00:19:21,226 00:19:23,228 WHO'S MAKING CARTOONS." WHO'S MAKING CARTOONS."

468 00:19:23,228 00:19:25,731 HE HAD A LITTLE CAR, HE HAD A LITTLE CAR,

469 00:19:26,231 00:19:28,233 AND HE WOULD DRIVE MOTHER AND HE WOULD DRIVE MOTHER

470 00:19:28,233 00:19:30,736 AND ANOTHER YOUNG WOMAN THAT WORKED FOR HIM THEN AND ANOTHER YOUNG WOMAN THAT WORKED FOR HIM THEN

471 00:19:30,736 00:19:32,237 HOME EVERY EVENING, HOME EVERY EVENING,

472 00:19:32,237 00:19:35,240 AND MOTHER TOOK GREAT DELIGHT IN THE FACT AND MOTHER TOOK GREAT DELIGHT IN THE FACT

473 00:19:35,240 00:19:38,243 THAT EVEN THOUGH MOTHER WAS THE NEAREST, THAT EVEN THOUGH MOTHER WAS THE NEAREST,

474 00:19:38,243 00:19:41,246 HE WOULD TAKE THE OTHER GIRL HOME FIRST HE WOULD TAKE THE OTHER GIRL HOME FIRST

475 00:19:41,246 00:19:44,249 AND THEN DROP MOTHER OFF ON THE WAY BACK. AND THEN DROP MOTHER OFF ON THE WAY BACK.

476 00:19:44,249 00:19:44,249 AND THEN DROP MOTHER OFF ON THE WAY BACK. AND THEN DROP MOTHER OFF ON THE WAY BACK.

477 00:19:47,252 00:19:49,254 IN SOME WAYS, IN SOME WAYS,

478 00:19:49,254 00:19:51,757 THE FAMILY WAS VERY DIFFERENT FROM HIS OWN. THE FAMILY WAS VERY DIFFERENT FROM HIS OWN.

479 00:19:51,757 00:19:53,759 IT WAS A LARGE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LARGE FAMILY, YOU KNOW,

480 00:19:54,259 00:19:55,260 DOUBLE THE SIZE OF HIS. DOUBLE THE SIZE OF HIS.

481 00:19:55,761 00:19:57,262 MY MOTHER'S FATHER WAS-- MY MOTHER'S FATHER WAS--

482 00:19:57,262 00:19:59,264 SHE DESCRIBED HIM "A GOOD-TIME CHARLIE." SHE DESCRIBED HIM "A GOOD-TIME CHARLIE."

483 00:19:59,264 00:20:00,766 THEY NEVER HAD MUCH MONEY, THEY NEVER HAD MUCH MONEY,

484 00:20:00,766 00:20:02,768 AND WHEN HE MADE A LITTLE MONEY, HE WENT OUT AND WHEN HE MADE A LITTLE MONEY, HE WENT OUT

485 00:20:02,768 00:20:04,770 AND BOUGHT THEM ALL PRESENTS. AND BOUGHT THEM ALL PRESENTS.

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VAN DYKE: On April 11th, 1925,

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487 00:20:07,272 00:20:10,275 ROY AND EDNA WERE MARRIED AT UNCLE ROBERT'S HOUSE. ROY AND EDNA WERE MARRIED AT UNCLE ROBERT'S HOUSE.

488 00:20:10,776 00:20:10,776 ROY AND EDNA WERE MARRIED AT UNCLE ROBERT'S HOUSE. ROY AND EDNA WERE MARRIED AT UNCLE ROBERT'S HOUSE.

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DIANE: And Dad is obviously

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490 00:20:15,781 00:20:17,783 SO DELIGHTED WITH MOTHER, YOU KNOW. SO DELIGHTED WITH MOTHER, YOU KNOW.

491 00:20:17,783 00:20:19,284 ANY EXCUSE TO HUG HER. ANY EXCUSE TO HUG HER.

492 00:20:19,284 00:20:20,786 AND SHE LOOKS VERY PLEASED AND SHE LOOKS VERY PLEASED

493 00:20:20,786 00:20:24,289 TO BE THE OBJECT OF HIS AFFECTION. TO BE THE OBJECT OF HIS AFFECTION.

494 00:20:24,289 00:20:26,792 AND NOT LONG AFTER THAT, AND NOT LONG AFTER THAT,

495 00:20:26,792 00:20:29,294 THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD GET MARRIED, TOO. THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD GET MARRIED, TOO.

496 00:20:29,294 00:20:31,296 THEY WENT UP TO LEWISTON, IDAHO, THEY WENT UP TO LEWISTON, IDAHO,

497 00:20:31,296 00:20:33,298 WHERE HER MOTHER WAS. WHERE HER MOTHER WAS.

498 00:20:33,298 00:20:36,301 THE DRESS SHE MADE HERSELF. THE DRESS SHE MADE HERSELF.

499 00:20:36,301 00:20:40,305 MY COUSIN MARJORIE REMEMBERS THAT MOTHER GIGGLED MY COUSIN MARJORIE REMEMBERS THAT MOTHER GIGGLED

500 00:20:40,305 00:20:44,309 THROUGHOUT THE SERVICE-- THE CEREMONY. THROUGHOUT THE SERVICE-- THE CEREMONY.

501 00:20:44,810 00:20:46,311 AND THEN THEY WENT ON A HONEYMOON AND THEN THEY WENT ON A HONEYMOON

502 00:20:46,311 00:20:48,313 TO MT. RAINIER. TO MT. RAINIER.

503 00:20:48,313 00:20:48,313 TO MT. RAINIER. TO MT. RAINIER.

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VAN DYKE: Just one week before,

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505 00:20:56,822 00:20:58,323 THE 2 BROTHERS MADE THE DOWN PAYMENT THE 2 BROTHERS MADE THE DOWN PAYMENT

506 00:20:58,323 00:21:00,826 ON A NEW LOT ON HYPERION AVENUE. ON A NEW LOT ON HYPERION AVENUE.

507 00:21:00,826 00:21:03,328 THEY PLANNED TO BUILD A BRAND NEW STUDIO THEY PLANNED TO BUILD A BRAND NEW STUDIO

508 00:21:03,328 00:21:05,831 TO CONTINUE PRODUCING THEALICESERIES. TO CONTINUE PRODUCING THEALICESERIES.

509 00:21:05,831 00:21:05,831 TO CONTINUE PRODUCING THEALICESERIES. TO CONTINUE PRODUCING THEALICESERIES.

510 00:21:11,336 00:21:12,838 MARGARET WINKLER WAS ONE OF MARGARET WINKLER WAS ONE OF

511 00:21:12,838 00:21:14,339 THE VERY FEW WOMEN THE VERY FEW WOMEN

512 00:21:14,840 00:21:16,842 TO BE A DISTRIBUTION EXECUTIVE TO BE A DISTRIBUTION EXECUTIVE

513 00:21:16,842 00:21:17,843 IN THE FILM WORLD. IN THE FILM WORLD.

514 00:21:17,843 00:21:20,345 SHE SUBSEQUENTLY MARRIED CHARLES MINTZ, SHE SUBSEQUENTLY MARRIED CHARLES MINTZ,

515 00:21:20,345 00:21:22,347 WHO KIND OF TOOK OVER THE BUSINESS, WHO KIND OF TOOK OVER THE BUSINESS,

516 00:21:22,347 00:21:24,850 AND WHO DROVE A MUCH HARDER BARGAIN AND WHO DROVE A MUCH HARDER BARGAIN

517 00:21:24,850 00:21:26,351 THAN SHE HAD. THAN SHE HAD.

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VAN DYKE: Mintz was not thrilled

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519 00:21:28,854 00:21:31,356 WITH THEALICECOMEDIES, WITH THEALICECOMEDIES,

520 00:21:31,356 00:21:33,358 AND BY THE END OF 1926, AND BY THE END OF 1926,

521 00:21:33,358 00:21:35,360 EVEN WALT HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVEN WALT HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE

522 00:21:35,360 00:21:37,362 THAT THEY HAD RUN THEIR COURSE. THAT THEY HAD RUN THEIR COURSE.

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SOLOMAN: Now, Mintz wanted a series

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524 00:21:39,865 00:21:41,366 THAT WOULD BE PURELY ANIMATED. THAT WOULD BE PURELY ANIMATED.

525 00:21:41,867 00:21:43,368 I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE KNOWS I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE KNOWS

526 00:21:43,368 00:21:45,370 WHO ACTUALLY SUGGESTED A RABBIT, WHO ACTUALLY SUGGESTED A RABBIT,

527 00:21:45,370 00:21:46,371 AND WHO THOUGHT AND WHO THOUGHT

528 00:21:46,371 00:21:48,373 THAT OSWALD SHOULD BE HIS NAME, THAT OSWALD SHOULD BE HIS NAME,

529 00:21:48,874 00:21:50,375 BUT OSWALD THE LUCKY RABBIT BUT OSWALD THE LUCKY RABBIT

530 00:21:50,375 00:21:52,377 WAS THE CHARACTER THEY CAME UP WITH. WAS THE CHARACTER THEY CAME UP WITH.

531 00:21:52,377 00:21:53,879 AND OSWALD WAS PRETTY LUCKY. AND OSWALD WAS PRETTY LUCKY.

532 00:21:53,879 00:21:55,881 THEY--THEY DID VERY WELL. THEY--THEY DID VERY WELL.

533 00:21:55,881 00:21:57,883 THE FILMS WERE DISTRIBUTED BY UNIVERSAL, THE FILMS WERE DISTRIBUTED BY UNIVERSAL,

534 00:21:57,883 00:21:59,885 AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT A MAJOR COMPANY AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT A MAJOR COMPANY

535 00:22:00,385 00:22:02,888 HAD DISTRIBUTED DISNEY'S CARTOONS. HAD DISTRIBUTED DISNEY'S CARTOONS.

536 00:22:02,888 00:22:05,390 SO THEY WERE BEING SHOWN IN MAJOR THEATERS SO THEY WERE BEING SHOWN IN MAJOR THEATERS

537 00:22:05,390 00:22:06,391 WITH FIRST-RUN FILMS. WITH FIRST-RUN FILMS.

538 00:22:06,892 00:22:06,892 WITH FIRST-RUN FILMS. WITH FIRST-RUN FILMS.

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DIANE: And then the two brothers

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540 00:22:09,895 00:22:11,897 DECIDED IT WAS-- YOU KNOW, DECIDED IT WAS-- YOU KNOW,

541 00:22:11,897 00:22:12,898 THAT THEY WERE BOTH MARRIED, THAT THEY WERE BOTH MARRIED,

542 00:22:13,398 00:22:14,900 IT WAS TIME TO BUILD A REAL HOME. IT WAS TIME TO BUILD A REAL HOME.

543 00:22:14,900 00:22:17,402 THEY BOUGHT LOTS-- ADJOINING LOTS-- THEY BOUGHT LOTS-- ADJOINING LOTS--

544 00:22:17,903 00:22:19,905 NOT FAR FROM THE HYPERION STUDIO NOT FAR FROM THE HYPERION STUDIO

545 00:22:19,905 00:22:21,907 ON A LITTLE HILLSIDE STREET. ON A LITTLE HILLSIDE STREET.

546 00:22:21,907 00:22:24,409 IT WAS PROBABLY THE FINEST HOME IT WAS PROBABLY THE FINEST HOME

547 00:22:24,910 00:22:26,411 THAT ANYBODY IN THEIR FAMILY THAT ANYBODY IN THEIR FAMILY

548 00:22:26,411 00:22:28,413 HAD EVER HAD AT THAT POINT. HAD EVER HAD AT THAT POINT.

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VAN DYKE: Lilly's mother,

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550 00:22:29,414 00:22:31,416 WHO WALT TREATED LIKE A QUEEN, WHO WALT TREATED LIKE A QUEEN,

551 00:22:31,416 00:22:33,418 LIVED WITH THEM FOR A WHILE. LIVED WITH THEM FOR A WHILE.

552 00:22:33,418 00:22:36,421 HAZEL DID, TOO, WITH HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER MARJORIE. HAZEL DID, TOO, WITH HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER MARJORIE.

553 00:22:36,421 00:22:36,922 HAZEL DID, TOO, WITH HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER MARJORIE. HAZEL DID, TOO, WITH HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER MARJORIE.

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DIANE: One Christmas,

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555 00:22:49,935 00:22:52,938 MY FATHER PRESENTED MY MOTHER WITH A HATBOX, MY FATHER PRESENTED MY MOTHER WITH A HATBOX,

556 00:22:52,938 00:22:54,439 AND WHEN SHE OPENED IT, AND WHEN SHE OPENED IT,

557 00:22:54,439 00:22:57,442 THERE WAS A LITTLE CHOW PUPPY INSIDE. THERE WAS A LITTLE CHOW PUPPY INSIDE.

558 00:22:57,442 00:22:57,442 THERE WAS A LITTLE CHOW PUPPY INSIDE. THERE WAS A LITTLE CHOW PUPPY INSIDE.

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VAN DYKE: In February of 1928,

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560 00:23:17,462 00:23:19,965 THE CONTRACT FOROSWALD THE RABBIT THE CONTRACT FOROSWALD THE RABBIT

561 00:23:19,965 00:23:21,466 WAS UP FOR RENEWAL. WAS UP FOR RENEWAL.

562 00:23:21,466 00:23:23,969 TOGETHER WITH LILLY, WALT BOARDED A TRAIN TOGETHER WITH LILLY, WALT BOARDED A TRAIN

563 00:23:23,969 00:23:26,471 TO NEW YORK TO STRIKE A NEW DEAL. TO NEW YORK TO STRIKE A NEW DEAL.

564 00:23:26,972 00:23:29,975 BUT MINTZ HAD AN UNPLEASANT SURPRISE. BUT MINTZ HAD AN UNPLEASANT SURPRISE.

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KAUFMAN: I think he figured

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566 00:23:31,977 00:23:34,479 THAT HE COULD PRODUCE THEOSWALDCARTOONS THAT HE COULD PRODUCE THEOSWALDCARTOONS

567 00:23:34,479 00:23:36,348 JUST AS WELL AS DISNEY, JUST AS WELL AS DISNEY,

568 00:23:36,348 00:23:38,350 AND DO AWAY WITH THE MIDDLEMAN. AND DO AWAY WITH THE MIDDLEMAN.

569 00:23:38,350 00:23:39,351 AND MINTZ TOLD HIM, AND MINTZ TOLD HIM,

570 00:23:39,851 00:23:41,353 "NO, YOU WILL NOT GET MORE MONEY. "NO, YOU WILL NOT GET MORE MONEY.

571 00:23:41,353 00:23:42,854 IN FACT, YOU WILL TAKE LESS," IN FACT, YOU WILL TAKE LESS,"

572 00:23:42,854 00:23:44,856 AND REVEALED THAT HE HAD HIRED AWAY AND REVEALED THAT HE HAD HIRED AWAY

573 00:23:44,856 00:23:47,359 VIRTUALLY WALT'S ENTIRE STAFF VIRTUALLY WALT'S ENTIRE STAFF

574 00:23:47,359 00:23:48,860 EXCEPT FOR UB IWERKS, EXCEPT FOR UB IWERKS,

575 00:23:48,860 00:23:50,362 AND THAT THEY WERE TAKING AND THAT THEY WERE TAKING

576 00:23:50,362 00:23:53,865 THE OSWALD CHARACTER TO SOMEONE ELSE. THE OSWALD CHARACTER TO SOMEONE ELSE.

577 00:23:53,865 00:23:56,368 MINTZ HAD IN EFFECT MINTZ HAD IN EFFECT

578 00:23:56,368 00:23:58,370 STOLEN THE CHARACTER FROM DISNEY. STOLEN THE CHARACTER FROM DISNEY.

579 00:23:58,370 00:24:00,372 NOW, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MADE CLEAR NOW, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MADE CLEAR

580 00:24:00,372 00:24:02,374 THAT THIS WAS STANDARD PRACTICE AT THE TIME. THAT THIS WAS STANDARD PRACTICE AT THE TIME.

581 00:24:02,374 00:24:05,377 THE DISTRIBUTOR OWNED THE RIGHTS TO THE CHARACTER. THE DISTRIBUTOR OWNED THE RIGHTS TO THE CHARACTER.

582 00:24:05,377 00:24:05,377 THE DISTRIBUTOR OWNED THE RIGHTS TO THE CHARACTER. THE DISTRIBUTOR OWNED THE RIGHTS TO THE CHARACTER.

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DIANE: He wired Roy.

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584 00:24:11,883 00:24:12,884 "EVERYTHING OK, "EVERYTHING OK,

585 00:24:12,884 00:24:14,886 I'LL EXPLAIN WHEN I GET HOME," I'LL EXPLAIN WHEN I GET HOME,"

586 00:24:14,886 00:24:15,887 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

587 00:24:16,388 00:24:17,889 AND ON THE WAY HOME ON THE TRAIN AND ON THE WAY HOME ON THE TRAIN

588 00:24:18,390 00:24:22,394 HE WAS BRAINSTORMING, AND MOTHER WAS THERE. HE WAS BRAINSTORMING, AND MOTHER WAS THERE.

589 00:24:22,394 00:24:23,395 HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, I THINK I'LL-- HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, I THINK I'LL--

590 00:24:23,895 00:24:24,896 "I NEED A NEW CHARACTER. "I NEED A NEW CHARACTER.

591 00:24:25,397 00:24:26,898 "I THINK IT WILL BE A MOUSE, "I THINK IT WILL BE A MOUSE,

592 00:24:26,898 00:24:29,901 AND I THINK I'LL CALL HIM MORTIMER." AND I THINK I'LL CALL HIM MORTIMER."

593 00:24:29,901 00:24:31,903 AND MOTHER SAID-- AND MOTHER SAID--

594 00:24:31,903 00:24:33,905 AND SHE IS SO PROUD OF THIS MOMENT-- AND SHE IS SO PROUD OF THIS MOMENT--

595 00:24:33,905 00:24:36,408 "MORTIMER? I DON'T LIKE MORTIMER. "MORTIMER? I DON'T LIKE MORTIMER.

596 00:24:36,408 00:24:38,910 WHAT ABOUT MICKEY?" WHAT ABOUT MICKEY?"

597 00:24:38,910 00:24:38,910 WHAT ABOUT MICKEY?" WHAT ABOUT MICKEY?"

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VAN DYKE: Walt presented

his ideas to Ub Iwerks,

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599 00:24:43,915 00:24:47,419 WHO REFINED AND ANIMATED THE CHARACTER. WHO REFINED AND ANIMATED THE CHARACTER.

600 00:24:47,919 00:24:50,422 THEY BEGAN THE FIRST CARTOON WITH MICKEY MOUSE, THEY BEGAN THE FIRST CARTOON WITH MICKEY MOUSE,

601 00:24:50,422 00:24:52,924 PLANE CRAZY, IN TOTAL SECRECY. PLANE CRAZY, IN TOTAL SECRECY.

602 00:24:53,425 00:24:53,425 PLANE CRAZY, IN TOTAL SECRECY. PLANE CRAZY, IN TOTAL SECRECY.

603 00:24:57,429 00:24:59,431 WALT DIDN'T HAVE ANY INITIAL SUCCESS WALT DIDN'T HAVE ANY INITIAL SUCCESS

604 00:24:59,431 00:25:01,433 FINDING A DISTRIBUTOR FOR HIS NEW CHARACTER. FINDING A DISTRIBUTOR FOR HIS NEW CHARACTER.

605 00:25:01,933 00:25:04,936 HE KNEW THAT HE NEEDED SOMETHING REVOLUTIONARY. HE KNEW THAT HE NEEDED SOMETHING REVOLUTIONARY.

606 00:25:05,437 00:25:06,938 THE ANSWER WAS SOUND, THE ANSWER WAS SOUND,

607 00:25:07,439 00:25:08,940 WHICH HAD RECENTLY BEEN ADDED WHICH HAD RECENTLY BEEN ADDED

608 00:25:08,940 00:25:11,443 TO SILENT PICTURES. TO SILENT PICTURES.

609 00:25:11,443 00:25:13,945 THE IDEA OF BLENDING SOUND AND ANIMATION THE IDEA OF BLENDING SOUND AND ANIMATION

610 00:25:13,945 00:25:14,946 WASN'T NEW, WASN'T NEW,

611 00:25:15,447 00:25:16,948 BUT WHAT WAS TYPICAL OF DISNEY BUT WHAT WAS TYPICAL OF DISNEY

612 00:25:17,449 00:25:19,451 WAS THAT HE WENT AHEAD AND MADE SURE WAS THAT HE WENT AHEAD AND MADE SURE

613 00:25:19,451 00:25:21,453 THAT HE COULD DO IT BETTER THAT HE COULD DO IT BETTER

614 00:25:21,453 00:25:22,454 AND MORE EFFECTIVELY AND MORE EFFECTIVELY

615 00:25:22,454 00:25:25,457 THAN ANYONE ELSE HAD UP UNTIL THEN. THAN ANYONE ELSE HAD UP UNTIL THEN.

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VAN DYKE: He struck a deal

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617 00:25:26,958 00:25:28,460 WITH A FELLOW NAMED PAT POWERS, WITH A FELLOW NAMED PAT POWERS,

618 00:25:28,960 00:25:30,962 WHO WOULD PROVIDE THE NECESSARY SOUND EQUIPMENT WHO WOULD PROVIDE THE NECESSARY SOUND EQUIPMENT

619 00:25:30,962 00:25:34,466 TO THEATERS, AS WELL AS DISTRIBUTE THE CARTOON. TO THEATERS, AS WELL AS DISTRIBUTE THE CARTOON.

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Then we used to put the

sound on afterwards

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and, uh, in those days you couldn't do

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what we call dubbing today,

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where you could mix a lot of tracks.

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It wasn't yet a science that, uh,

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that you could get away with,

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so we used to have to do

everything at one time,

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and we used to have to run the cartoon,

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we'd have the fellas

with the sound effects,

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we had the people with the voices,

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we had the orchestra going,

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and everybody had to synchronize.

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633 00:26:02,494 00:26:03,495 [TOOT] [TOOT]

634 00:26:03,495 00:26:04,496 [TOOT TOOT TOOT] [TOOT TOOT TOOT]

635 00:26:04,496 00:26:06,498 [TWEET TWEET] [TWEET TWEET]

636 00:26:06,498 00:26:06,498 [TWEET TWEET] [TWEET TWEET]

637 00:26:08,500 00:26:10,502 [WHISTLING] [WHISTLING]

638 00:26:10,502 00:26:10,502 [WHISTLING] [WHISTLING]

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SOLOMAN: When you look

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640 00:26:14,005 00:26:15,507 ATSTEAMBOAT WILLIE TODAY, ATSTEAMBOAT WILLIE TODAY,

641 00:26:16,007 00:26:17,509 IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE

642 00:26:18,009 00:26:20,512 HOW FRESH AND HOW DIFFERENT HOW FRESH AND HOW DIFFERENT

643 00:26:20,512 00:26:22,013 IT MUST HAVE BEEN IT MUST HAVE BEEN

644 00:26:22,013 00:26:24,516 THAN THE OTHER ANIMATED FILMS OF THAT ERA. THAN THE OTHER ANIMATED FILMS OF THAT ERA.

645 00:26:25,016 00:26:26,518 BUT IF YOU WERE IN THE AUDIENCE BUT IF YOU WERE IN THE AUDIENCE

646 00:26:26,518 00:26:28,520 IN THE COLONY THEATER IN NEW YORK IN THE COLONY THEATER IN NEW YORK

647 00:26:28,520 00:26:31,523 IN NOVEMBER OF 1928, YOU HAD NEVER SEEN IN NOVEMBER OF 1928, YOU HAD NEVER SEEN

648 00:26:31,523 00:26:33,024 ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.

649 00:26:33,024 00:26:35,527 HERE WAS A CHARACTER LAUGHING AND DANCING HERE WAS A CHARACTER LAUGHING AND DANCING

650 00:26:35,527 00:26:38,029 AND WHISTLING AND SINGING, AND WHISTLING AND SINGING,

651 00:26:38,029 00:26:40,031 COORDINATED TO THE MUSIC MORE PERFECTLY COORDINATED TO THE MUSIC MORE PERFECTLY

652 00:26:40,031 00:26:42,534 THAN ANYTHING YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN BEFORE. THAN ANYTHING YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN BEFORE.

653 00:26:42,534 00:26:42,534 THAN ANYTHING YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN BEFORE. THAN ANYTHING YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN BEFORE.

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MICKEY: Hurry up, Pluto!

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SOLOMAN: Walt was

Mickey's original voice

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656 00:26:47,539 00:26:49,040 BECAUSE HE COULDN'T FIND AN ACTOR BECAUSE HE COULDN'T FIND AN ACTOR

657 00:26:49,040 00:26:50,542 WHO DID IT THE WAY HE LIKED IT. WHO DID IT THE WAY HE LIKED IT.

658 00:26:50,542 00:26:52,043 HE WOULD SAY, "IT'S HIGH, HE WOULD SAY, "IT'S HIGH,

659 00:26:52,043 00:26:54,045 IT'S NOT FALSETTO, IT'S LIKE THIS." IT'S NOT FALSETTO, IT'S LIKE THIS."

660 00:26:54,045 00:26:57,048 AND THEY FINALLY SAID, "WALT, YOU DO IT." AND THEY FINALLY SAID, "WALT, YOU DO IT."

661 00:26:57,048 00:26:59,050 [MICKEY MOUSE VOICE] SHH! HE'LL HEAR YOU. [MICKEY MOUSE VOICE] SHH! HE'LL HEAR YOU.

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SOLOMAN: And many of the artists

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663 00:27:01,052 00:27:02,554 MAINTAIN THAT MICKEY WAS REALLY MAINTAIN THAT MICKEY WAS REALLY

664 00:27:02,554 00:27:04,556 KIND OF AN ALTER EGO FOR WALT, KIND OF AN ALTER EGO FOR WALT,

665 00:27:05,056 00:27:09,060 THAT WHEN THEY SEE HIM MOVING AND ACTING, THAT WHEN THEY SEE HIM MOVING AND ACTING,

666 00:27:09,060 00:27:11,062 PARTICULARLY IN THE LATER SOUND FILMS PARTICULARLY IN THE LATER SOUND FILMS

667 00:27:11,062 00:27:13,064 WHEN THE CHARACTER HAS DEVELOPED MORE FULLY WHEN THE CHARACTER HAS DEVELOPED MORE FULLY

668 00:27:13,565 00:27:14,566 IN THE THIRTIES, IN THE THIRTIES,

669 00:27:14,566 00:27:16,568 THAT HE REALLY IS KIND OF WALT THAT HE REALLY IS KIND OF WALT

670 00:27:17,068 00:27:18,069 UP ON THE SCREEN. UP ON THE SCREEN.

671 00:27:18,570 00:27:18,570 UP ON THE SCREEN. UP ON THE SCREEN.

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VAN DYKE: Mickey Mouse

had made Walt famous.

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673 00:27:23,575 00:27:25,076 BUT WALT WANTED TO EXPLORE BUT WALT WANTED TO EXPLORE

674 00:27:25,577 00:27:27,579 NEW IDEAS FOR ANIMATED FILMS. NEW IDEAS FOR ANIMATED FILMS.

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DISNEY: And playing with music

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676 00:27:29,080 00:27:30,081 AND DOING THINGS WITH MUSIC AND DOING THINGS WITH MUSIC

677 00:27:30,081 00:27:32,083 WAS INTRIGUING AND EVERYTHING. WAS INTRIGUING AND EVERYTHING.

678 00:27:32,083 00:27:34,085 SO I STARTED THE SILLY SYMPHONY. SO I STARTED THE SILLY SYMPHONY.

679 00:27:34,085 00:27:35,587 AND I MADE THE FIRST ONE AND I MADE THE FIRST ONE

680 00:27:35,587 00:27:37,589 AND CALLED IT THE SKELETON DANCE. AND CALLED IT THE SKELETON DANCE.

681 00:27:37,589 00:27:37,589 AND CALLED IT THE SKELETON DANCE. AND CALLED IT THE SKELETON DANCE.

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SOLOMAN: And once again,

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683 00:27:44,596 00:27:46,598 THIS IS A FILM THAT MUST HAVE BEEN THIS IS A FILM THAT MUST HAVE BEEN

684 00:27:46,598 00:27:48,600 A REAL EYE-OPENER FOR AUDIENCES A REAL EYE-OPENER FOR AUDIENCES

685 00:27:49,100 00:27:51,102 WHEN IT CAME OUT BECAUSE NO ONE HAD SEEN WHEN IT CAME OUT BECAUSE NO ONE HAD SEEN

686 00:27:51,102 00:27:52,103 ANYTHING LIKE IT. ANYTHING LIKE IT.

687 00:27:52,604 00:27:54,606 IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PLOT. IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PLOT.

688 00:27:54,606 00:27:57,108 IT'S BASICALLY SOME SKELETONS EMERGE IT'S BASICALLY SOME SKELETONS EMERGE

689 00:27:57,108 00:27:59,110 FROM THEIR TOMB AT NIGHT FROM THEIR TOMB AT NIGHT

690 00:27:59,110 00:28:01,112 AND DANCE SOME RATHER JAUNTY DANCES AND DANCE SOME RATHER JAUNTY DANCES

691 00:28:01,112 00:28:04,115 AND SMASH EACH OTHER AND PLAY EACH OTHER AND SMASH EACH OTHER AND PLAY EACH OTHER

692 00:28:04,115 00:28:07,118 AND BOUNCE UP AND DOWN AND HAVE A GOOD TIME, AND BOUNCE UP AND DOWN AND HAVE A GOOD TIME,

693 00:28:07,118 00:28:08,620 AND IT'S VERY RUBBERY ANIMATION AND IT'S VERY RUBBERY ANIMATION

694 00:28:08,620 00:28:10,622 ALL SET TO EDVARD GRIEG'S ALL SET TO EDVARD GRIEG'S

695 00:28:10,622 00:28:12,123 MARCH OF THE DWARVES. MARCH OF THE DWARVES.

696 00:28:12,123 00:28:12,123 MARCH OF THE DWARVES. MARCH OF THE DWARVES.

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BRADBURY: When I was seven,

I went to the movies

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698 00:28:18,129 00:28:21,633 AND SAWTHE SKELETON DANCE, A MATINEE, AND SAWTHE SKELETON DANCE, A MATINEE,

699 00:28:22,133 00:28:23,635 AND I STAYED THROUGH THE FILM, AND I STAYED THROUGH THE FILM,

700 00:28:23,635 00:28:25,136 A DREADFUL FILM, A DREADFUL FILM,

701 00:28:25,136 00:28:27,639 BUT I STAYED THROUGH TO SEETHE SKELETON DANCE BUT I STAYED THROUGH TO SEETHE SKELETON DANCE

702 00:28:28,139 00:28:30,141 SO MANY TIMES THAT MY FATHER HAD TO COME SO MANY TIMES THAT MY FATHER HAD TO COME

703 00:28:30,642 00:28:32,644 AND DRAG ME OUT OF THE THEATER. AND DRAG ME OUT OF THE THEATER.

704 00:28:32,644 00:28:34,145 THE GUY THOUGHT IN TERMS THE GUY THOUGHT IN TERMS

705 00:28:34,646 00:28:37,148 OF ENTERTAINMENT, AND THAT WAS OF ENTERTAINMENT, AND THAT WAS

706 00:28:37,649 00:28:39,150 THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT HIM. THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT HIM.

707 00:28:39,150 00:28:40,652 AND THAT'S WHAT, I GUESS, AND THAT'S WHAT, I GUESS,

708 00:28:40,652 00:28:43,655 MADE US ALL SO LOYAL TO HIM. MADE US ALL SO LOYAL TO HIM.

709 00:28:43,655 00:28:45,156 HE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING HE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING

710 00:28:45,156 00:28:47,659 THAT WAS DIFFERENT. THAT WAS DIFFERENT.

711 00:28:47,659 00:28:49,160 HE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS HE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS

712 00:28:49,661 00:28:54,666 WAY OUT IN FRONT OF WHAT ANYBODY ELSE WAS DOING WAY OUT IN FRONT OF WHAT ANYBODY ELSE WAS DOING

713 00:28:54,666 00:28:57,168 IN THE BUSINESS OF ANIMATION. IN THE BUSINESS OF ANIMATION.

714 00:28:57,168 00:29:01,172 HE CARED ENOUGH TO WANT TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. HE CARED ENOUGH TO WANT TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

715 00:29:01,172 00:29:03,174 HE'D DO IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN HE'D DO IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN

716 00:29:03,174 00:29:05,176 UNTIL IT WORKED, TILL IT WAS RIGHT. UNTIL IT WORKED, TILL IT WAS RIGHT.

717 00:29:05,677 00:29:05,677 UNTIL IT WORKED, TILL IT WAS RIGHT. UNTIL IT WORKED, TILL IT WAS RIGHT.

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VAN DYKE: In late 1930,

Roy began to suspect

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719 00:29:10,181 00:29:14,185 THAT POWERS HAD WITHHELD LARGE SUMS OF ROYALTIES. THAT POWERS HAD WITHHELD LARGE SUMS OF ROYALTIES.

720 00:29:14,185 00:29:15,687 HE SURMISED THAT POWERS WANTED HE SURMISED THAT POWERS WANTED

721 00:29:15,687 00:29:18,690 TO TAKE OVER THE DISNEY STUDIO. TO TAKE OVER THE DISNEY STUDIO.

722 00:29:18,690 00:29:22,694 BELIEVING UB IWERKS TO BE THE KEY TO THEIR SUCCESS, BELIEVING UB IWERKS TO BE THE KEY TO THEIR SUCCESS,

723 00:29:22,694 00:29:25,697 HE LURED IWERKS AWAY. HE LURED IWERKS AWAY.

724 00:29:25,697 00:29:27,699 THE DISNEY BROTHERS HAD GIVEN IWERKS THE DISNEY BROTHERS HAD GIVEN IWERKS

725 00:29:27,699 00:29:30,201 A 20% INTEREST IN THEIR STUDIO, A 20% INTEREST IN THEIR STUDIO,

726 00:29:30,702 00:29:34,205 WHICH HE SOLD BACK FOR A MERE $2,000. WHICH HE SOLD BACK FOR A MERE $2,000.

727 00:29:34,205 00:29:37,208 UB WOULD RETURN TO THE STUDIO SOME YEARS LATER UB WOULD RETURN TO THE STUDIO SOME YEARS LATER

728 00:29:37,709 00:29:40,211 AND BECOME AN EXPERT IN SPECIAL EFFECTS. AND BECOME AN EXPERT IN SPECIAL EFFECTS.

729 00:29:40,211 00:29:42,714 WHEN UB LEFT, WALT WAS HURT. WHEN UB LEFT, WALT WAS HURT.

730 00:29:42,714 00:29:45,216 BUT AT LEAST, THIS TIME, BUT AT LEAST, THIS TIME,

731 00:29:45,216 00:29:47,719 HE OWNED THE MICKEY CHARACTER. HE OWNED THE MICKEY CHARACTER.

732 00:29:47,719 00:29:50,722 THERE WAS TIMES WHEN WE WEREN'T PROCEEDING. THERE WAS TIMES WHEN WE WEREN'T PROCEEDING.

733 00:29:50,722 00:29:53,725 I THINK HE HAD A SENSE OF DESTINY, I THINK HE HAD A SENSE OF DESTINY,

734 00:29:53,725 00:29:56,227 AND HE KNEW WHERE HE WANTED TO GO, AND HE KNEW WHERE HE WANTED TO GO,

735 00:29:56,227 00:29:59,731 AND HE WANTED TO GET ON WITH IT ALWAYS. AND HE WANTED TO GET ON WITH IT ALWAYS.

736 00:30:00,231 00:30:00,231 AND HE WANTED TO GET ON WITH IT ALWAYS. AND HE WANTED TO GET ON WITH IT ALWAYS.

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VAN DYKE: On January 10th, 1930,

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738 00:30:04,736 00:30:09,741 EDNA GAVE BIRTH TO A BABY BOY NAMED ROY EDWARD. EDNA GAVE BIRTH TO A BABY BOY NAMED ROY EDWARD.

739 00:30:09,741 00:30:11,242 FOR SOME TIME, WALT HAD BEEN READY FOR SOME TIME, WALT HAD BEEN READY

740 00:30:11,743 00:30:14,746 TO START A FAMILY, BUT LILLY WANTED TO WAIT. TO START A FAMILY, BUT LILLY WANTED TO WAIT.

741 00:30:14,746 00:30:17,248 AS THE YOUNGEST OF 10 CHILDREN AS THE YOUNGEST OF 10 CHILDREN

742 00:30:17,248 00:30:19,250 IN A FAMILY OF HUMBLE MEANS, IN A FAMILY OF HUMBLE MEANS,

743 00:30:19,250 00:30:21,252 LILLY HAD SEEN HOW HARD HER MOTHER LILLY HAD SEEN HOW HARD HER MOTHER

744 00:30:21,252 00:30:23,755 AND OLDER SISTER WERE FORCED TO WORK. AND OLDER SISTER WERE FORCED TO WORK.

745 00:30:23,755 00:30:26,257 HER LIFE WITH WALT WAS ROMANTIC AND EXCITING, HER LIFE WITH WALT WAS ROMANTIC AND EXCITING,

746 00:30:26,758 00:30:29,260 AND THEY WERE ENJOYING EVERY MINUTE OF IT. AND THEY WERE ENJOYING EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

747 00:30:29,260 00:30:29,260 AND THEY WERE ENJOYING EVERY MINUTE OF IT. AND THEY WERE ENJOYING EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

748 00:30:37,769 00:30:39,771 AFTER A FEW YEARS, WHEN LILLY DECIDED AFTER A FEW YEARS, WHEN LILLY DECIDED

749 00:30:39,771 00:30:41,773 THE TIME HAD COME FOR CHILDREN, THE TIME HAD COME FOR CHILDREN,

750 00:30:41,773 00:30:44,275 IT WASN'T TO BE THAT EASY. IT WASN'T TO BE THAT EASY.

751 00:30:44,275 00:30:44,275 IT WASN'T TO BE THAT EASY. IT WASN'T TO BE THAT EASY.

752 00:30:47,278 00:30:50,281 LILLY SUFFERED 2 MISCARRIAGES. LILLY SUFFERED 2 MISCARRIAGES.

753 00:30:50,281 00:30:52,283 COMBINED WITH THE PRESSURES OF THE STUDIO, COMBINED WITH THE PRESSURES OF THE STUDIO,

754 00:30:52,283 00:30:56,287 WALT FELT PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY DRAINED. WALT FELT PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY DRAINED.

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DISNEY: I did. In 1981,

I had a hell of a breakdown.

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756 00:30:59,791 00:31:01,793 I WENT ALL TO PIECES. I WENT ALL TO PIECES.

757 00:31:01,793 00:31:04,295 IT WAS A FACT THAT I CRACKED UP. IT WAS A FACT THAT I CRACKED UP.

758 00:31:04,295 00:31:07,298 I JUST GOT VERY IRRITABLE. I JUST GOT VERY IRRITABLE.

759 00:31:07,298 00:31:09,300 I GOT TO THE POINT THAT I COULDN'T TALK I GOT TO THE POINT THAT I COULDN'T TALK

760 00:31:09,300 00:31:11,302 ON THE TELEPHONE. I'D BEGIN TO CRY. ON THE TELEPHONE. I'D BEGIN TO CRY.

761 00:31:11,803 00:31:14,305 I HAD TO GO AWAY. I HAD TO GO AWAY.

762 00:31:14,305 00:31:14,305 I HAD TO GO AWAY. I HAD TO GO AWAY.

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DIANE: And everybody went

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764 00:31:19,811 00:31:22,313 TO THE TRAIN STATION TO SEE THEM OFF. TO THE TRAIN STATION TO SEE THEM OFF.

765 00:31:22,313 00:31:22,313 TO THE TRAIN STATION TO SEE THEM OFF. TO THE TRAIN STATION TO SEE THEM OFF.

766 00:31:28,820 00:31:30,822 SO THEY WENT ON, THEY WENT SO THEY WENT ON, THEY WENT

767 00:31:30,822 00:31:32,824 TO WASHINGTON D.C., I BELIEVE, TO WASHINGTON D.C., I BELIEVE,

768 00:31:32,824 00:31:37,829 AND THEN ON TO, UH, CUBA ON A STEAMSHIP, AND THEN ON TO, UH, CUBA ON A STEAMSHIP,

769 00:31:38,329 00:31:40,331 AND THEN I THINK THEY CAME ON AND THEN I THINK THEY CAME ON

770 00:31:40,331 00:31:42,834 THROUGH THE PANAMA CANAL, IT WAS. THROUGH THE PANAMA CANAL, IT WAS.

771 00:31:42,834 00:31:46,337 AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY LANGUOROUS, AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY LANGUOROUS,

772 00:31:46,838 00:31:49,841 VERY RELAXING, AND MAYBE ROMANTIC-- VERY RELAXING, AND MAYBE ROMANTIC--

773 00:31:49,841 00:31:52,343 VERY ROMANTIC TRIP FOR THEM. VERY ROMANTIC TRIP FOR THEM.

774 00:31:52,343 00:31:52,343 VERY ROMANTIC TRIP FOR THEM. VERY ROMANTIC TRIP FOR THEM.

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VAN DYKE: Walt decided

he needed to exercise

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776 00:31:57,348 00:31:59,851 TO WORK OUT THE TENSION IN HIS LIFE. TO WORK OUT THE TENSION IN HIS LIFE.

777 00:31:59,851 00:32:02,353 GOLF, WRESTLING, AND BOXING GOLF, WRESTLING, AND BOXING

778 00:32:02,353 00:32:03,855 DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT. DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT.

779 00:32:04,355 00:32:04,355 DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT. DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT.

780 00:32:05,857 00:32:07,358 AND THIS, YOU MUST REMEMBER, AND THIS, YOU MUST REMEMBER,

781 00:32:07,358 00:32:08,860 WAS THE MACHO TIME OF FILMS. WAS THE MACHO TIME OF FILMS.

782 00:32:08,860 00:32:12,363 THIS IS WHEN THE MEN TRIED TO SIMULATE, THIS IS WHEN THE MEN TRIED TO SIMULATE,

783 00:32:12,363 00:32:14,866 IN A SENSE, THE CHARACTERS THEY PLAYED ON FILM, IN A SENSE, THE CHARACTERS THEY PLAYED ON FILM,

784 00:32:14,866 00:32:17,368 AND THEY WERE ATHLETES, AND THEY JUMPED INTO THINGS AND THEY WERE ATHLETES, AND THEY JUMPED INTO THINGS

785 00:32:17,368 00:32:19,370 THEY WEREN'T REALLY EQUIPPED TO DO--LIKE POLO, THEY WEREN'T REALLY EQUIPPED TO DO--LIKE POLO,

786 00:32:19,370 00:32:21,873 WHICH IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT GAME. WHICH IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT GAME.

787 00:32:21,873 00:32:21,873 WHICH IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT GAME. WHICH IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT GAME.

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STACK: Gable and Spence Tracy

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789 00:32:34,385 00:32:38,389 AND BOB MONTGOMERY AND... AND BOB MONTGOMERY AND...

790 00:32:38,389 00:32:40,892 THEY WOULD HAVE THESE TAILGATE PARTIES THEY WOULD HAVE THESE TAILGATE PARTIES

791 00:32:40,892 00:32:43,394 WITH THE WICKER BASKETS AND THE CHAMPAGNE WITH THE WICKER BASKETS AND THE CHAMPAGNE

792 00:32:43,895 00:32:45,396 AND THE CAVIAR AND THE WHOLE SONG AND DANCE, AND THE CAVIAR AND THE WHOLE SONG AND DANCE,

793 00:32:45,396 00:32:46,898 WHICH WAS NOT REALLY TYPICAL WHICH WAS NOT REALLY TYPICAL

794 00:32:46,898 00:32:49,400 OF THE WAY HOLLYWOOD WAS AT ALL. OF THE WAY HOLLYWOOD WAS AT ALL.

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SHAW: While he was, uh, riding around

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796 00:32:51,402 00:32:54,405 SCRIMMAGING WITH THE ARGENTINE TEAM, SCRIMMAGING WITH THE ARGENTINE TEAM,

797 00:32:54,405 00:32:57,909 ONE OF THE ARGENTINE PLAYERS BACKED A BALL ONE OF THE ARGENTINE PLAYERS BACKED A BALL

798 00:32:57,909 00:33:00,411 AND WALT TURNED AROUND JUST ABOUT THE TIME AND WALT TURNED AROUND JUST ABOUT THE TIME

799 00:33:00,411 00:33:01,913 THAT THE BALL CAME AND, YOU KNOW, THAT THE BALL CAME AND, YOU KNOW,

800 00:33:01,913 00:33:05,416 THESE BALLS ARE HARD WOODEN OBJECTS, THESE BALLS ARE HARD WOODEN OBJECTS,

801 00:33:05,416 00:33:08,920 AND IT HIT WALT, AND, UH, IT REALLY HURT HIM BADLY. AND IT HIT WALT, AND, UH, IT REALLY HURT HIM BADLY.

802 00:33:08,920 00:33:11,422 AND AT THAT POINT THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND AT THAT POINT THE INSURANCE COMPANY

803 00:33:11,923 00:33:14,926 TOLD WALT THAT HE HAD TO QUIT PLAYING POLO. TOLD WALT THAT HE HAD TO QUIT PLAYING POLO.

804 00:33:14,926 00:33:15,426 TOLD WALT THAT HE HAD TO QUIT PLAYING POLO. TOLD WALT THAT HE HAD TO QUIT PLAYING POLO.

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VAN DYKE: In 1932, Walt began work

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806 00:33:23,434 00:33:26,437 ON A PARTICULARLY RISKY SILLY SYMPHONY PROJECT. ON A PARTICULARLY RISKY SILLY SYMPHONY PROJECT.

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SOLOMAN: Flowers and Trees began

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808 00:33:28,439 00:33:31,442 AS A BLACK AND WHITE SILLY SYMPHONY, AS A BLACK AND WHITE SILLY SYMPHONY,

809 00:33:31,442 00:33:32,944 AND DISNEY SOMEHOW LEARNED AND DISNEY SOMEHOW LEARNED

810 00:33:32,944 00:33:34,946 ABOUT THE TECHNICOLOR PROCESS, ABOUT THE TECHNICOLOR PROCESS,

811 00:33:34,946 00:33:36,948 SIGNED A DEAL FOR ITS EXCLUSIVE USE SIGNED A DEAL FOR ITS EXCLUSIVE USE

812 00:33:36,948 00:33:39,450 IN ANIMATION FOR, I BELIEVE, 3 YEARS, IN ANIMATION FOR, I BELIEVE, 3 YEARS,

813 00:33:39,450 00:33:41,953 AND THEN ANNOUNCED TO HIS BROTHER ROY AND THEN ANNOUNCED TO HIS BROTHER ROY

814 00:33:41,953 00:33:43,955 THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RESHOOT THIS FILM THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RESHOOT THIS FILM

815 00:33:44,455 00:33:46,457 THAT WAS HALF DONE ALL IN COLOR, THAT WAS HALF DONE ALL IN COLOR,

816 00:33:46,457 00:33:49,460 UM, WHICH PROBABLY TREBLED THE COST UM, WHICH PROBABLY TREBLED THE COST

817 00:33:49,460 00:33:51,963 AND SENT ROY'S BLOOD PRESSURE UP AND SENT ROY'S BLOOD PRESSURE UP

818 00:33:51,963 00:33:53,464 A NUMBER OF DEGREES. A NUMBER OF DEGREES.

819 00:33:53,464 00:33:55,633 I THINK PROBABLY 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 I THINK PROBABLY 9 TIMES OUT OF 10

820 00:33:55,633 00:33:59,137 DAD'S QUESTION WOULD ALWAYS BE, UM, DAD'S QUESTION WOULD ALWAYS BE, UM,

821 00:33:59,637 00:34:02,140 "WHERE AM I GONNA GET THE MONEY TO--TO DO IT?" "WHERE AM I GONNA GET THE MONEY TO--TO DO IT?"

822 00:34:02,640 00:34:05,143 NOT, UH, "IS THAT A GOOD IDEA OR NOT?" NOT, UH, "IS THAT A GOOD IDEA OR NOT?"

823 00:34:05,643 00:34:07,145 I THINK HE REALLY WANTED HIS LITTLE BROTHER I THINK HE REALLY WANTED HIS LITTLE BROTHER

824 00:34:07,645 00:34:09,647 TO DO ANYTHING HE WANTED TO DO TO DO ANYTHING HE WANTED TO DO

825 00:34:09,647 00:34:14,152 BECAUSE HE RECOGNIZED THE POWER OF THOSE IDEAS. BECAUSE HE RECOGNIZED THE POWER OF THOSE IDEAS.

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VAN DYKE: Flowers and Trees

was repainted

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827 00:34:16,654 00:34:18,656 AND SHOT FROM SCRATCH. AND SHOT FROM SCRATCH.

828 00:34:18,656 00:34:18,656 AND SHOT FROM SCRATCH. AND SHOT FROM SCRATCH.

829 00:34:27,165 00:34:28,666 [TWITTERS] [TWITTERS]

830 00:34:28,666 00:34:28,666 [TWITTERS] [TWITTERS]

831 00:34:31,169 00:34:33,171 COLOR CATAPULTED THE SILLY SYMPHONIES COLOR CATAPULTED THE SILLY SYMPHONIES

832 00:34:33,171 00:34:35,173 TO NEW HEIGHTS OF POPULARITY. TO NEW HEIGHTS OF POPULARITY.

833 00:34:35,173 00:34:37,675 THE ACADEMY CROWNED FLOWERS AND TREES THE ACADEMY CROWNED FLOWERS AND TREES

834 00:34:37,675 00:34:42,180 WITH AN OSCAR, THE FIRST EVER GIVEN TO A CARTOON. WITH AN OSCAR, THE FIRST EVER GIVEN TO A CARTOON.

835 00:34:42,680 00:34:45,683 THE SILLY SYMPHONIES, ESPECIALLYTHREE LITTLE PIGS, THE SILLY SYMPHONIES, ESPECIALLYTHREE LITTLE PIGS,

836 00:34:45,683 00:34:47,685 HAD HONED A NEW CLASS OF ANIMATORS, HAD HONED A NEW CLASS OF ANIMATORS,

837 00:34:47,685 00:34:50,188 ABLE TO PRODUCE FLUID MOVEMENTS IN CHARACTERS ABLE TO PRODUCE FLUID MOVEMENTS IN CHARACTERS

838 00:34:50,188 00:34:52,190 IN HIGHLY REALISTIC SETTINGS. IN HIGHLY REALISTIC SETTINGS.

839 00:34:52,190 00:34:52,190 IN HIGHLY REALISTIC SETTINGS. IN HIGHLY REALISTIC SETTINGS.

840 00:34:56,694 00:34:58,696 IN MAY OF 1933, IN MAY OF 1933,

841 00:34:58,696 00:35:02,200 LILLY TOLD WALT SHE WAS PREGNANT AGAIN. LILLY TOLD WALT SHE WAS PREGNANT AGAIN.

842 00:35:02,700 00:35:06,204 IN DECEMBER, DIANE MARIE DISNEY WAS BORN. IN DECEMBER, DIANE MARIE DISNEY WAS BORN.

843 00:35:06,204 00:35:06,204 IN DECEMBER, DIANE MARIE DISNEY WAS BORN. IN DECEMBER, DIANE MARIE DISNEY WAS BORN.

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DIANE: The morning of my birth,

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845 00:35:10,708 00:35:13,211 UH, SHE SAID HER-- THAT HER WATER BROKE, UH, SHE SAID HER-- THAT HER WATER BROKE,

846 00:35:13,211 00:35:16,714 AND MY DAD CRIED, HE WAS SO EXCITED. AND MY DAD CRIED, HE WAS SO EXCITED.

847 00:35:17,215 00:35:17,215 AND MY DAD CRIED, HE WAS SO EXCITED. AND MY DAD CRIED, HE WAS SO EXCITED.

848 00:35:23,721 00:35:26,224 WE HAD A WONDERFUL HOME, THIS SECOND HOME, WE HAD A WONDERFUL HOME, THIS SECOND HOME,

849 00:35:26,224 00:35:28,226 THE HOME THAT I WAS--CAME INTO, THE HOME THAT I WAS--CAME INTO,

850 00:35:28,226 00:35:30,228 IN THE LOS FELIZ HILLS, IN THE LOS FELIZ HILLS,

851 00:35:30,228 00:35:37,235 AND MANY WONDERFUL SUNDAYS WITH A LOT OF THE ANIMATORS, AND MANY WONDERFUL SUNDAYS WITH A LOT OF THE ANIMATORS,

852 00:35:37,235 00:35:39,237 AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WORKED WITH HIM AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WORKED WITH HIM

853 00:35:39,237 00:35:40,738 WOULD COME WITH THEIR FAMILIES, WOULD COME WITH THEIR FAMILIES,

854 00:35:40,738 00:35:44,242 AND A LOT OF FUN AND GAMES IN THE SWIMMING POOL. AND A LOT OF FUN AND GAMES IN THE SWIMMING POOL.

855 00:35:44,242 00:35:44,242 AND A LOT OF FUN AND GAMES IN THE SWIMMING POOL. AND A LOT OF FUN AND GAMES IN THE SWIMMING POOL.

856 00:35:49,747 00:35:51,249 [BABBLING] [BABBLING]

857 00:35:51,249 00:35:52,250 HMM? HMM?

858 00:35:52,750 00:35:52,750 HMM? HMM?

859 00:36:02,260 00:36:03,761 [QUACKING] [QUACKING]

860 00:36:03,761 00:36:05,763 HOW'S THE OLD KITTY GO? HOW'S THE OLD KITTY CAT GO? HOW'S THE OLD KITTY GO? HOW'S THE OLD KITTY CAT GO?

861 00:36:05,763 00:36:06,764 MEOW. MEOW.

862 00:36:07,265 00:36:08,766 MEOW. HUH? MEOW. HUH?

863 00:36:08,766 00:36:08,766 MEOW. HUH? MEOW. HUH?

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VAN DYKE: Walt had long since

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865 00:36:17,775 00:36:20,778 STOPPED DOING ANIMATION HIMSELF. STOPPED DOING ANIMATION HIMSELF.

866 00:36:20,778 00:36:23,281 HE GUIDED HIS CREATIVE STAFF, HE GUIDED HIS CREATIVE STAFF,

867 00:36:23,281 00:36:25,283 FOCUSING ON STORY DEVELOPMENT. FOCUSING ON STORY DEVELOPMENT.

868 00:36:25,283 00:36:25,283 FOCUSING ON STORY DEVELOPMENT. FOCUSING ON STORY DEVELOPMENT.

869 00:36:27,285 00:36:28,786 WALT HAD MANY FACES... WALT HAD MANY FACES...

870 00:36:29,287 00:36:31,289 AND THE FACE HE SHOWED HIS FAMILY AND THE FACE HE SHOWED HIS FAMILY

871 00:36:31,289 00:36:33,791 WAS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE FACE WAS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE FACE

872 00:36:33,791 00:36:37,795 HE SHOWED HIS ANIMATORS AND HIS ARTISTS. HE SHOWED HIS ANIMATORS AND HIS ARTISTS.

873 00:36:38,296 00:36:41,799 THERE HE WAS A TASKMASTER, AND A VERY STERN ONE. THERE HE WAS A TASKMASTER, AND A VERY STERN ONE.

874 00:36:42,300 00:36:45,303 HE COULD BE VERY TOUGH AND HE WOULD NEVER PRAISE. HE COULD BE VERY TOUGH AND HE WOULD NEVER PRAISE.

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DON: One of his

non-traditional techniques

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876 00:36:48,306 00:36:50,308 WAS TO PUT 2 ANTAGONISTS TOGETHER. WAS TO PUT 2 ANTAGONISTS TOGETHER.

877 00:36:50,308 00:36:52,810 HE LIKED THE FRICTION THAT CAME WITH THAT. HE LIKED THE FRICTION THAT CAME WITH THAT.

878 00:36:52,810 00:36:55,313 HE THOUGHT SOMETHING CREATIVE WOULD COME OUT OF THAT. HE THOUGHT SOMETHING CREATIVE WOULD COME OUT OF THAT.

879 00:36:55,813 00:36:57,815 HE ALSO, IF HE HAD A TEAM WORKING TOGETHER HE ALSO, IF HE HAD A TEAM WORKING TOGETHER

880 00:36:57,815 00:37:00,818 THAT LIKED EACH OTHER TOO MUCH, HE WOULD BREAK THEM UP. THAT LIKED EACH OTHER TOO MUCH, HE WOULD BREAK THEM UP.

881 00:37:00,818 00:37:03,821 WALT HAD A STRANGE HABIT. WALT HAD A STRANGE HABIT.

882 00:37:03,821 00:37:06,824 HE FOUND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY TO YOU, HE FOUND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY TO YOU,

883 00:37:06,824 00:37:10,828 "HEY, MARK, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL JOB." "HEY, MARK, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL JOB."

884 00:37:10,828 00:37:13,331 HE WOULD--HE WOULD TALK HE WOULD--HE WOULD TALK

885 00:37:13,831 00:37:16,834 TO OLLIE JOHNSTON OR SOMEBODY ELSE. TO OLLIE JOHNSTON OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

886 00:37:16,834 00:37:18,836 HE TURNS TO FRANK AND HE SAYS, HE TURNS TO FRANK AND HE SAYS,

887 00:37:18,836 00:37:20,338 "I HEAR YOU GOT THE BEST SCENE "I HEAR YOU GOT THE BEST SCENE

888 00:37:20,838 00:37:21,839 IN THE PICTURE." IN THE PICTURE."

889 00:37:21,839 00:37:24,342 HE WOULD TELL OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT YOU. HE WOULD TELL OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT YOU.

890 00:37:24,342 00:37:25,843 YOU NEVER HEARD IT FIRST-HAND. YOU NEVER HEARD IT FIRST-HAND.

891 00:37:25,843 00:37:27,345 IT WAS ALWAYS SECOND-HAND. IT WAS ALWAYS SECOND-HAND.

892 00:37:27,345 00:37:29,347 HE SAID, "I HEAR YOU'VE GOT HE SAID, "I HEAR YOU'VE GOT

893 00:37:29,347 00:37:30,848 THE BEST SCENE IN THE PICTURE." THE BEST SCENE IN THE PICTURE."

894 00:37:30,848 00:37:33,351 NOW, THAT'S PRETTY EVASIVE. NOW, THAT'S PRETTY EVASIVE.

895 00:37:33,351 00:37:34,852 THAT'S THE CLOSEST YOU'LL COME THAT'S THE CLOSEST YOU'LL COME

896 00:37:34,852 00:37:36,354 TO GETTING A COMPLIMENT. TO GETTING A COMPLIMENT.

897 00:37:36,354 00:37:38,856 HE WAS NOT DENYING ANYBODY PRAISE. HE WAS NOT DENYING ANYBODY PRAISE.

898 00:37:38,856 00:37:42,360 IT WAS JUST HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. IT WAS JUST HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

899 00:37:42,360 00:37:43,861 HE WOULD TEST YOU SOMETIMES. HE WOULD TEST YOU SOMETIMES.

900 00:37:43,861 00:37:45,363 I MEAN, HE WOULD TEST PEOPLE I MEAN, HE WOULD TEST PEOPLE

901 00:37:45,363 00:37:49,867 TO SEE IF THEY COULD DEFEND WHAT THEY BELIEVED IN. TO SEE IF THEY COULD DEFEND WHAT THEY BELIEVED IN.

902 00:37:49,867 00:37:54,872 HE HAD-- HE HAD A MARVELOUS WAY HE HAD-- HE HAD A MARVELOUS WAY

903 00:37:55,373 00:37:56,874 OF MAKING YOU WANT TO PLEASE HIM. OF MAKING YOU WANT TO PLEASE HIM.

904 00:37:56,874 00:37:58,376 AND WHEN YOU PLEASED HIM, AND WHEN YOU PLEASED HIM,

905 00:37:58,376 00:38:00,878 YOU DIDN'T TOUCH GROUND FOR A DAY OR TWO. YOU DIDN'T TOUCH GROUND FOR A DAY OR TWO.

906 00:38:00,878 00:38:03,881 AND YOU'D JUST FEEL YOURSELF RISE UP OUT OF THE CHAIR. AND YOU'D JUST FEEL YOURSELF RISE UP OUT OF THE CHAIR.

907 00:38:04,382 00:38:07,385 HE WAS QUITE OUTSPOKEN ABOUT ANYTHING HE DIDN'T LIKE. HE WAS QUITE OUTSPOKEN ABOUT ANYTHING HE DIDN'T LIKE.

908 00:38:07,885 00:38:10,888 PARTICULARLY WHEN WE WERE IN WHAT WE CALLED "SWEATBOX," PARTICULARLY WHEN WE WERE IN WHAT WE CALLED "SWEATBOX,"

909 00:38:10,888 00:38:14,392 WHERE WE WOULD RUN OFF THE DAY'S ANIMATION, WHERE WE WOULD RUN OFF THE DAY'S ANIMATION,

910 00:38:14,392 00:38:15,893 THE ROUGHS. THE ROUGHS.

911 00:38:15,893 00:38:17,895 AND THEY CALLED THEM "SWEATBOXES," AND THEY CALLED THEM "SWEATBOXES,"

912 00:38:18,396 00:38:20,898 BECAUSE LITERALLY YOU WENT IN BECAUSE LITERALLY YOU WENT IN

913 00:38:20,898 00:38:22,900 AND YOU SWEAT BLOOD. HEH HEH. AND YOU SWEAT BLOOD. HEH HEH.

914 00:38:22,900 00:38:24,902 AND THIS IS THE GREAT STORY AND THIS IS THE GREAT STORY

915 00:38:24,902 00:38:26,904 OF WALT'S EYEBROW COMING DOWN OF WALT'S EYEBROW COMING DOWN

916 00:38:26,904 00:38:28,906 AND TAPPING HIS FINGERS ON THE TABLE, AND TAPPING HIS FINGERS ON THE TABLE,

917 00:38:28,906 00:38:30,908 AND I THOUGHT, "OH, GOD, I'M IN TROUBLE NOW." AND I THOUGHT, "OH, GOD, I'M IN TROUBLE NOW."

918 00:38:30,908 00:38:32,410 HE'D HUNCH FORWARD IN HIS SEAT, HE'D HUNCH FORWARD IN HIS SEAT,

919 00:38:32,410 00:38:35,413 HIS EYEBROW-- VERY ANIMATED EYEBROW-- HIS EYEBROW-- VERY ANIMATED EYEBROW--

920 00:38:35,413 00:38:37,915 WOULD GO UP AND START LOOKING--HE'D SCOWL WOULD GO UP AND START LOOKING--HE'D SCOWL

921 00:38:37,915 00:38:39,417 BECAUSE HE WAS CONCENTRATING SO HARD. BECAUSE HE WAS CONCENTRATING SO HARD.

922 00:38:39,417 00:38:41,419 THIS WAS TERRIBLY UNNERVING. THIS WAS TERRIBLY UNNERVING.

923 00:38:41,419 00:38:41,419 THIS WAS TERRIBLY UNNERVING. THIS WAS TERRIBLY UNNERVING.

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VAN DYKE: Walt sent artists to classes

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at the Chouinard Art Institute.

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The first thing I did

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when I got a little money to experiment,

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I put all my artists back in school.

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Art schools that existed then

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didn't quite have enough

for what we needed,

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so we set up our own art school.

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We were dealing in motion, movement,

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the flow of movement,

the flow of things.

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Action, reaction, all of that.

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VAN DYKE: With his

newly-trained animators,

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936 00:39:16,454 00:39:18,956 WALT THOUGHT THE STUDIO WAS READY AT LAST WALT THOUGHT THE STUDIO WAS READY AT LAST

937 00:39:18,956 00:39:21,459 TO BREAK OUT OF CARTOON SHORTS. TO BREAK OUT OF CARTOON SHORTS.

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DISNEY: I don't know

why I picked Snow White.

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939 00:39:23,461 00:39:25,463 IT WAS A THING I REMEMBERED AS A KID. IT WAS A THING I REMEMBERED AS A KID.

940 00:39:25,463 00:39:27,465 I SAW MARGUERITE CLARK IN IT IN KANSAS CITY I SAW MARGUERITE CLARK IN IT IN KANSAS CITY

941 00:39:27,465 00:39:29,467 WHEN I WAS A NEWSBOY. THEY HAD A BIG SHOWING WHEN I WAS A NEWSBOY. THEY HAD A BIG SHOWING

942 00:39:29,467 00:39:31,469 FOR ALL THE NEWSBOYS, AND I WENT AND SAWSNOW WHITE. FOR ALL THE NEWSBOYS, AND I WENT AND SAWSNOW WHITE.

943 00:39:31,469 00:39:33,471 IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FIRST BIG FEATURE PICTURES IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FIRST BIG FEATURE PICTURES

944 00:39:33,471 00:39:34,472 I'D EVER SEEN. I'D EVER SEEN.

945 00:39:34,972 00:39:36,474 TO ME, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PERFECT STORY. TO ME, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PERFECT STORY.

946 00:39:36,474 00:39:38,976 I HAD THE SYMPATHETIC DWARFS AND THINGS, I HAD THE SYMPATHETIC DWARFS AND THINGS,

947 00:39:38,976 00:39:40,478 I HAD THE HEAVY. I HAD THE HEAVY.

948 00:39:40,478 00:39:42,980 I HAD THE PRINCE AND THE GIRL, THE ROMANCE. I HAD THE PRINCE AND THE GIRL, THE ROMANCE.

949 00:39:42,980 00:39:45,883 I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A PERFECT STORY. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A PERFECT STORY.

950 00:39:45,883 00:39:48,486 I REMEMBER THAT HE CALLED A MEETING I REMEMBER THAT HE CALLED A MEETING

951 00:39:48,486 00:39:51,489 AND HAD A LARGE GROUP AND HAD A LARGE GROUP

952 00:39:51,489 00:39:53,991 OVER ON THE SOUNDSTAGE ONE EVENING, OVER ON THE SOUNDSTAGE ONE EVENING,

953 00:39:53,991 00:39:56,994 AND HE WENT THROUGH AND TOLD THE STORY. AND HE WENT THROUGH AND TOLD THE STORY.

954 00:39:56,994 00:39:59,997 AND SO WE WERE ALL A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT IT, AND SO WE WERE ALL A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT IT,

955 00:39:59,997 00:40:02,500 BUT WE SAT AROUND IN A HALF CIRCLE AS I RECALL, BUT WE SAT AROUND IN A HALF CIRCLE AS I RECALL,

956 00:40:02,500 00:40:04,502 AND HE STARTED TELLING THE STORY. AND HE STARTED TELLING THE STORY.

957 00:40:04,502 00:40:07,004 OF COURSE, TYPICAL WALT, OF COURSE, TYPICAL WALT,

958 00:40:07,004 00:40:09,507 HE WAS A TERRIFIC ACTOR, HE WAS A TERRIFIC ACTOR,

959 00:40:09,507 00:40:12,009 BUT HE COULDN'T DO IT BY MEMORIZING LINES BUT HE COULDN'T DO IT BY MEMORIZING LINES

960 00:40:12,009 00:40:14,512 OR DOING ANYTHING REHEARSED. OR DOING ANYTHING REHEARSED.

961 00:40:14,512 00:40:18,516 HE WAS A NATURAL ACTOR, AS IT WERE, HE WAS A NATURAL ACTOR, AS IT WERE,

962 00:40:19,016 00:40:22,520 HE WAS ABLE TO GIVE HIS ANIMATORS AND HIS DIRECTORS HE WAS ABLE TO GIVE HIS ANIMATORS AND HIS DIRECTORS

963 00:40:22,520 00:40:25,022 AND SCRIPT PEOPLE SORT OF AN ESSENCE AND SCRIPT PEOPLE SORT OF AN ESSENCE

964 00:40:25,022 00:40:27,024 OF WHAT THESE CHARACTERS SHOULD BE DOING OF WHAT THESE CHARACTERS SHOULD BE DOING

965 00:40:27,024 00:40:28,526 AND HOW THE STORY SHOULD FLOW. AND HOW THE STORY SHOULD FLOW.

966 00:40:28,526 00:40:32,530 HE WOULD JUST SAY, "THE QUEEN GETS UP HERE AND DOES THIS, HE WOULD JUST SAY, "THE QUEEN GETS UP HERE AND DOES THIS,

967 00:40:32,530 00:40:35,533 "AND SNOW WHITE'S DOWN HERE AND SHE'S SCRUBBING AWAY ON THIS, "AND SNOW WHITE'S DOWN HERE AND SHE'S SCRUBBING AWAY ON THIS,

968 00:40:35,533 00:40:37,034 "AND SHE SINGSSOME DAY, "AND SHE SINGSSOME DAY,

969 00:40:37,535 00:40:39,537 AND HERE COMES THE PRINCE ON HIS HORSE," AND HERE COMES THE PRINCE ON HIS HORSE,"

970 00:40:39,537 00:40:43,541 HE JUST ACTS OUT EVERY PART OF IT SPONTANEOUSLY. HE JUST ACTS OUT EVERY PART OF IT SPONTANEOUSLY.

971 00:40:43,541 00:40:43,541 HE JUST ACTS OUT EVERY PART OF IT SPONTANEOUSLY. HE JUST ACTS OUT EVERY PART OF IT SPONTANEOUSLY.

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VAN DYKE: Back at home,

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973 00:40:48,045 00:40:49,547 WALT WAS HAPPY WITH HIS LITTLE FAMILY. WALT WAS HAPPY WITH HIS LITTLE FAMILY.

974 00:40:50,047 00:40:52,049 IN FACT, HE WANTED MORE CHILDREN. IN FACT, HE WANTED MORE CHILDREN.

975 00:40:52,049 00:40:55,052 LILLY'S DOCTORS DIDN'T AGREE. LILLY'S DOCTORS DIDN'T AGREE.

976 00:40:55,052 00:40:56,554 MY MOTHER HAD BEEN TOLD MY MOTHER HAD BEEN TOLD

977 00:40:56,554 00:40:58,556 THAT SHE SHOULD NOT TRY TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD THAT SHE SHOULD NOT TRY TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD

978 00:40:59,056 00:41:02,059 BECAUSE SHE HAD HAD ANOTHER PREGNANCY AFTER MY BIRTH BECAUSE SHE HAD HAD ANOTHER PREGNANCY AFTER MY BIRTH

979 00:41:02,560 00:41:05,062 THAT ENDED IN A MISCARRIAGE. THAT ENDED IN A MISCARRIAGE.

980 00:41:05,062 00:41:10,568 SO MY FATHER HAD PURSUED THE IDEA OF ADOPTION, SO MY FATHER HAD PURSUED THE IDEA OF ADOPTION,

981 00:41:10,568 00:41:13,571 AND THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF SECRECY AND THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF SECRECY

982 00:41:13,571 00:41:17,575 AROUND ADOPTION AT THAT TIME. AROUND ADOPTION AT THAT TIME.

983 00:41:17,575 00:41:20,077 I'D BEEN TOLD I WAS GETTING A SISTER I'D BEEN TOLD I WAS GETTING A SISTER

984 00:41:20,077 00:41:21,579 AND I WAS VERY EXCITED. AND I WAS VERY EXCITED.

985 00:41:21,579 00:41:25,082 LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, I SAW THE CAR DOOR OPEN LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, I SAW THE CAR DOOR OPEN

986 00:41:25,082 00:41:28,085 AND MY SISTER WAS THERE. AND MY SISTER WAS THERE.

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VAN DYKE: Sharon Mae Disney

had joined the family.

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988 00:41:31,088 00:41:33,090 WALT'S HOME WAS HIS SANCTUARY, WALT'S HOME WAS HIS SANCTUARY,

989 00:41:33,090 00:41:37,094 BUT HIS FAMILY KNEW THEY HAD TO SHARE WALT WITH THE STUDIO BUT HIS FAMILY KNEW THEY HAD TO SHARE WALT WITH THE STUDIO

990 00:41:37,094 00:41:40,097 AND THE ONE PROJECT THAT COULD SPELL SUCCESS OR FAILURE-- AND THE ONE PROJECT THAT COULD SPELL SUCCESS OR FAILURE--

991 00:41:40,097 00:41:41,599 SNOW WHITE. SNOW WHITE.

992 00:41:41,599 00:41:41,599 SNOW WHITE. SNOW WHITE.

993 00:41:46,604 00:41:48,606 MEETINGS FOCUSED ON EVERY DETAIL. MEETINGS FOCUSED ON EVERY DETAIL.

994 00:41:48,606 00:41:51,108 WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, SHOULD SNOW WHITE NOTICE WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, SHOULD SNOW WHITE NOTICE

995 00:41:51,108 00:41:54,111 THE PRESENCE OF THE HUNTSMAN BEHIND HER? THE PRESENCE OF THE HUNTSMAN BEHIND HER?

996 00:41:54,111 00:41:55,112 [MUSIC SWELLS] [MUSIC SWELLS]

997 00:41:55,112 00:41:56,614 GOOD-BYE! GOOD-BYE!

998 00:41:56,614 00:41:56,614 GOOD-BYE! GOOD-BYE!

999 00:41:58,616 00:42:00,117 AAH! AAH!

1000 00:42:00,117 00:42:00,117 AAH! AAH!

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VAN DYKE: Gags and ideas were

constantly being added or cut,

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1002 00:42:08,125 00:42:10,127 A PROCESS THAT WALT CALLED "PLUSSING." A PROCESS THAT WALT CALLED "PLUSSING."

1003 00:42:10,628 00:42:13,130 I DID A SOUP SEQUENCE FOR SNOW WHITE I DID A SOUP SEQUENCE FOR SNOW WHITE

1004 00:42:13,130 00:42:15,633 THAT WAS VERY FUNNY AND EVERYBODY LAUGHED. THAT WAS VERY FUNNY AND EVERYBODY LAUGHED.

1005 00:42:15,633 00:42:17,635 AND SO DID WALT. AND SO DID WALT.

1006 00:42:17,635 00:42:20,638 SHE CALLS THEM IN, DANG, DANG, DANG, SHE CALLS THEM IN, DANG, DANG, DANG,

1007 00:42:20,638 00:42:24,141 AND SHE SERVES SOUP TO THEM. AND SHE SERVES SOUP TO THEM.

1008 00:42:24,141 00:42:29,146 ALL THE FUNNY WAYS THAT THEY SLURP THE SOUP, ALL THE FUNNY WAYS THAT THEY SLURP THE SOUP,

1009 00:42:29,647 00:42:31,148 ESPECIALLY DOPEY. ESPECIALLY DOPEY.

1010 00:42:31,148 00:42:33,651 [SLURPING RHYTHMICALLY] [SLURPING RHYTHMICALLY]

1011 00:42:33,651 00:42:35,152 ?? WITH A SPOON ?? ?? WITH A SPOON ??

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WARD: And he called me

up to his office,

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1013 00:42:37,655 00:42:40,157 AND HE SAYS, "I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE FILM, AND HE SAYS, "I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE FILM,

1014 00:42:40,157 00:42:43,661 AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE SOUP SEQUENCE." AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE SOUP SEQUENCE."

1015 00:42:43,661 00:42:46,163 NOW, I'D SPENT 8 MONTHS ON IT. NOW, I'D SPENT 8 MONTHS ON IT.

1016 00:42:46,163 00:42:50,167 AND HE GAVE ME THE REASON WAS, HE SAYS, AND HE GAVE ME THE REASON WAS, HE SAYS,

1017 00:42:50,167 00:42:53,170 "I'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO THE WITCH." "I'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO THE WITCH."

1018 00:42:53,170 00:42:55,673 AND IT KIND OF HURT. AND IT KIND OF HURT.

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VAN DYKE: Costs soared

from an estimated $500,000

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1020 00:42:59,677 00:43:01,178 TO 3 TIMES THAT. TO 3 TIMES THAT.

1021 00:43:01,178 00:43:03,681 CYNICS SNEERED AT THE IDEA THAT AUDIENCES CYNICS SNEERED AT THE IDEA THAT AUDIENCES

1022 00:43:03,681 00:43:05,683 WOULD SIT THROUGH A FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON. WOULD SIT THROUGH A FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON.

1023 00:43:05,683 00:43:06,684 WE'RE MAKING WE'RE MAKING

1024 00:43:06,684 00:43:08,185 A FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON. A FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON.

1025 00:43:08,185 00:43:09,186 A FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON? A FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON?

1026 00:43:09,687 00:43:10,688 YES, WE... YES, WE...

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DISNEY: I didn't know what I had,

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or what would happen or anything.

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We had the family fortune,

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we had everything wrapped

up in Snow White.

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In fact, the banker, I think,

_________________________________

was losing more sleep than I was.

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1033 00:43:23,200 00:43:25,703 IFSTEAMBOAT WILLIE WAS THE FIRST TIME IFSTEAMBOAT WILLIE WAS THE FIRST TIME

1034 00:43:25,703 00:43:28,205 WALT RISKED EVERYTHING HE HAD ON A FILM, WALT RISKED EVERYTHING HE HAD ON A FILM,

1035 00:43:28,205 00:43:30,207 SNOW WHITE WAS THE SECOND. SNOW WHITE WAS THE SECOND.

1036 00:43:30,207 00:43:32,209 HE WAS LITERALLY MORTGAGED TO THE HILT. HE WAS LITERALLY MORTGAGED TO THE HILT.

1037 00:43:32,209 00:43:35,212 EVERY NICKEL HE COULD RAISE, BORROW, BEG, EVERY NICKEL HE COULD RAISE, BORROW, BEG,

1038 00:43:35,212 00:43:37,214 HE PUT INTO THAT FILM. HE PUT INTO THAT FILM.

1039 00:43:37,214 00:43:39,717 NOW, IT WASN'T THE FIRST ANIMATED FEATURE. NOW, IT WASN'T THE FIRST ANIMATED FEATURE.

1040 00:43:39,717 00:43:43,220 THERE HAD BEEN A COUPLE MADE IN ARGENTINA IN THE TEENS. THERE HAD BEEN A COUPLE MADE IN ARGENTINA IN THE TEENS.

1041 00:43:43,721 00:43:45,723 IN EUROPE, THERE HAD BEEN LOTTE REINIGER'S IN EUROPE, THERE HAD BEEN LOTTE REINIGER'S

1042 00:43:45,723 00:43:47,224 ADVENTURES OF PRINCE ACHMED, ADVENTURES OF PRINCE ACHMED,

1043 00:43:47,224 00:43:50,227 BUT THE IDEA THAT THIS KIND OF FULLY-ANIMATED, BUT THE IDEA THAT THIS KIND OF FULLY-ANIMATED,

1044 00:43:50,227 00:43:52,730 TECHNICOLOR, SPECTACULAR FILM TECHNICOLOR, SPECTACULAR FILM

1045 00:43:52,730 00:43:55,232 COULD BE MADE IN ANIMATION COULD BE MADE IN ANIMATION

1046 00:43:55,733 00:43:58,235 WAS AN EXTRAORDINARILY BOLD STROKE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARILY BOLD STROKE

1047 00:43:58,235 00:44:00,237 AND YET A VERY LOGICAL ONE. AND YET A VERY LOGICAL ONE.

1048 00:44:00,237 00:44:01,739 [DOOR SLAMS] [DOOR SLAMS]

1049 00:44:01,739 00:44:01,739 [DOOR SLAMS] [DOOR SLAMS]

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VAN DYKE: On December 21st, 1937,

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1051 00:44:07,244 00:44:08,746 SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS

1052 00:44:09,246 00:44:12,750 HAD ITS PREMIERE AT THE CARTHAY CIRCLE THEATER. HAD ITS PREMIERE AT THE CARTHAY CIRCLE THEATER.

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DISNEY: A big, grand,

Hollywood premiere...

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1054 00:44:14,752 00:44:17,755 IT WAS QUITE A CLIMAX TO SOMETHING, IT WAS QUITE A CLIMAX TO SOMETHING,

1055 00:44:17,755 00:44:19,757 BECAUSE IT WENT WAY BACK. BECAUSE IT WENT WAY BACK.

1056 00:44:19,757 00:44:23,761 ALL OF HOLLYWOOD'S BRASS TURNED OUT FOR A CARTOON. ALL OF HOLLYWOOD'S BRASS TURNED OUT FOR A CARTOON.

1057 00:44:23,761 00:44:26,263 SO IT WAS AN EXCITING THING TO HAVE THAT PREMIERE. SO IT WAS AN EXCITING THING TO HAVE THAT PREMIERE.

1058 00:44:26,263 00:44:27,765 THE DARN THING WENT OUT THE DARN THING WENT OUT

1059 00:44:28,265 00:44:31,268 AND GROSSED $8 MILLION AROUND THE WORLD. AND GROSSED $8 MILLION AROUND THE WORLD.

1060 00:44:31,268 00:44:31,268 AND GROSSED $8 MILLION AROUND THE WORLD. AND GROSSED $8 MILLION AROUND THE WORLD.

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VAN DYKE: Money poured in.

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1062 00:44:39,777 00:44:41,278 WITHIN 6 MONTHS, WITHIN 6 MONTHS,

1063 00:44:41,278 00:44:45,783 ROY WAS ABLE TO PAY OFF THE ENTIRE STUDIO DEBT. ROY WAS ABLE TO PAY OFF THE ENTIRE STUDIO DEBT.

1064 00:44:45,783 00:44:47,785 WALT RECEIVED A SPECIAL ACADEMY AWARD WALT RECEIVED A SPECIAL ACADEMY AWARD

1065 00:44:48,285 00:44:51,288 MADE UP OF ONE TALL AND 7 SMALL FIGURINES. MADE UP OF ONE TALL AND 7 SMALL FIGURINES.

1066 00:44:51,288 00:44:53,791 OH, ISN'T IT BRIGHT AND SHINY? OH, ISN'T IT BRIGHT AND SHINY?

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DISNEY: Oh, it's beautiful.

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1068 00:44:55,793 00:44:57,294 AREN'T YOU PROUD OF IT, MR. DISNEY? AREN'T YOU PROUD OF IT, MR. DISNEY?

1069 00:44:57,294 00:44:58,796 WHY, I'M SO PROUD, I THINK I'LL BUST. WHY, I'M SO PROUD, I THINK I'LL BUST.

1070 00:44:59,296 00:45:00,297 [GIGGLES] [GIGGLES]

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VAN DYKE: Feature-length films

were the future.

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1072 00:45:03,300 00:45:06,303 WALT REFUSED TO MAKE A SEQUEL TOSNOW WHITE WALT REFUSED TO MAKE A SEQUEL TOSNOW WHITE

1073 00:45:06,303 00:45:09,306 AND OPTED FOR 3 VERY DIFFERENT STORIES-- AND OPTED FOR 3 VERY DIFFERENT STORIES--

1074 00:45:09,807 00:45:13,811 PINOCCHIO, FANTASIA, ANDBAMBI. PINOCCHIO, FANTASIA, ANDBAMBI.

1075 00:45:14,311 00:45:16,313 ON NEW YEAR'S DAY, 1938, ON NEW YEAR'S DAY, 1938,

1076 00:45:16,814 00:45:18,315 THE WHOLE FAMILY CAME TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE THE WHOLE FAMILY CAME TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE

1077 00:45:18,816 00:45:22,319 FLORA AND ELIAS'S 50th WEDDING ANNIVERSARY. FLORA AND ELIAS'S 50th WEDDING ANNIVERSARY.

1078 00:45:22,319 00:45:24,321 HERE WAS A FAMILY THAT HAD JUST HERE WAS A FAMILY THAT HAD JUST

1079 00:45:24,321 00:45:26,323 WORKED THEMSELVES TO THE BONE. WORKED THEMSELVES TO THE BONE.

1080 00:45:26,323 00:45:29,326 AND THEN-- AND THIS BEAUTIFUL TALENT AND THEN-- AND THIS BEAUTIFUL TALENT

1081 00:45:29,326 00:45:31,829 OF THE GIFT THAT WALT HAD BEEN GIVEN OF THE GIFT THAT WALT HAD BEEN GIVEN

1082 00:45:31,829 00:45:35,833 WAS JUST LIKE A RAY OF LIGHT COMING INTO OUR LIVES. WAS JUST LIKE A RAY OF LIGHT COMING INTO OUR LIVES.

1083 00:45:36,333 00:45:36,333 WAS JUST LIKE A RAY OF LIGHT COMING INTO OUR LIVES. WAS JUST LIKE A RAY OF LIGHT COMING INTO OUR LIVES.

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VAN DYKE: For some time now,

Flora, Elias, and Ruth

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1085 00:45:41,839 00:45:44,341 HAD BEEN LIVING IN PORTLAND, AWAY FROM THEIR SONS, HAD BEEN LIVING IN PORTLAND, AWAY FROM THEIR SONS,

1086 00:45:44,341 00:45:47,344 WHO WERE ALL LIVING IN CALIFORNIA. WHO WERE ALL LIVING IN CALIFORNIA.

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BOB: Roy and Walt said,

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1088 00:45:48,846 00:45:51,348 "NO, WE WANT THE FOLKS TO COME DOWN HERE "NO, WE WANT THE FOLKS TO COME DOWN HERE

1089 00:45:51,849 00:45:52,850 "WHERE THE WEATHER IS BETTER "WHERE THE WEATHER IS BETTER

1090 00:45:52,850 00:45:55,853 "AND WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THEM "AND WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THEM

1091 00:45:56,353 00:45:58,856 AND THEY CAN WATCH THEIR GRANDCHILDREN GROW UP." AND THEY CAN WATCH THEIR GRANDCHILDREN GROW UP."

1092 00:45:58,856 00:46:01,358 AND SO THEY BROUGHT THEM DOWN TO LOS ANGELES AND SO THEY BROUGHT THEM DOWN TO LOS ANGELES

1093 00:46:01,859 00:46:02,860 AND THEY BOUGHT THEM AND THEY BOUGHT THEM

1094 00:46:02,860 00:46:05,863 A VERY NICE LITTLE HOUSE IN THE VALLEY A VERY NICE LITTLE HOUSE IN THE VALLEY

1095 00:46:05,863 00:46:09,366 CLOSE TO WHERE ROY LIVED. CLOSE TO WHERE ROY LIVED.

1096 00:46:09,366 00:46:13,370 AND FOR A TIME, THEY WERE VERY HAPPY. AND FOR A TIME, THEY WERE VERY HAPPY.

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VAN DYKE: But there was a

problem with the house.

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1098 00:46:15,873 00:46:18,876 THE GAS FURNACE WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY. THE GAS FURNACE WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY.

1099 00:46:18,876 00:46:22,379 WALT SENT STUDIO REPAIRMEN TO FIX THE FURNACE, WALT SENT STUDIO REPAIRMEN TO FIX THE FURNACE,

1100 00:46:22,379 00:46:24,882 BUT IT CONTINUED TO MALFUNCTION. BUT IT CONTINUED TO MALFUNCTION.

1101 00:46:24,882 00:46:28,385 EARLY ONE MORNING IN NOVEMBER OF 1938, EARLY ONE MORNING IN NOVEMBER OF 1938,

1102 00:46:28,385 00:46:30,387 ELIAS FOUND HIS WIFE ON THE FLOOR, ELIAS FOUND HIS WIFE ON THE FLOOR,

1103 00:46:30,387 00:46:33,891 OVERCOME BY GAS FUMES. OVERCOME BY GAS FUMES.

1104 00:46:33,891 00:46:38,395 ELIAS SURVIVED, BUT FLORA DIED. ELIAS SURVIVED, BUT FLORA DIED.

1105 00:46:38,395 00:46:41,899 AND THIS WAS A DEVASTATING EVENT FOR WALT AND ROY. AND THIS WAS A DEVASTATING EVENT FOR WALT AND ROY.

1106 00:46:41,899 00:46:43,901 THEY HAD BOUGHT THE HOUSE, THEY HAD BOUGHT THE HOUSE,

1107 00:46:43,901 00:46:45,903 THEY HAD BROUGHT THEIR PARENTS DOWN HERE, THEY HAD BROUGHT THEIR PARENTS DOWN HERE,

1108 00:46:45,903 00:46:49,406 AND NOW THEIR FATHER WAS ALONE, AND NOW THEIR FATHER WAS ALONE,

1109 00:46:49,406 00:46:53,911 AND I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE GREAT TRAGEDIES AND I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE GREAT TRAGEDIES

1110 00:46:54,411 00:46:56,413 IN BOTH THEIR LIVES. IN BOTH THEIR LIVES.

1111 00:46:56,914 00:46:56,914 IN BOTH THEIR LIVES. IN BOTH THEIR LIVES.

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VAN DYKE: Walt began building

a new studio in Burbank.

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1113 00:47:05,923 00:47:07,925 BUDGETED AT $3 MILLION, BUDGETED AT $3 MILLION,

1114 00:47:07,925 00:47:09,426 HE RELISHED THE OPPORTUNITY HE RELISHED THE OPPORTUNITY

1115 00:47:09,426 00:47:11,929 TO CREATE A STATE-OF-THE-ART STUDIO TO CREATE A STATE-OF-THE-ART STUDIO

1116 00:47:12,429 00:47:13,931 FULL OF NEW IDEAS AND TECHNOLOGY, FULL OF NEW IDEAS AND TECHNOLOGY,

1117 00:47:14,431 00:47:16,934 INCLUDING THE MULTI-PLANE CAMERA. INCLUDING THE MULTI-PLANE CAMERA.

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BROUGHTON: The multi-plane

camera had levels,

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1119 00:47:19,937 00:47:22,940 AND ON EACH OF THESE LEVELS WE'D PUT A BIG GLASS ON IT. AND ON EACH OF THESE LEVELS WE'D PUT A BIG GLASS ON IT.

1120 00:47:23,440 00:47:26,944 WE COULD PAINT THE FOREGROUND TREE ON THE TOP ONE, WE COULD PAINT THE FOREGROUND TREE ON THE TOP ONE,

1121 00:47:26,944 00:47:30,948 THE BACKGROUND--THE HOUSE THAT YOU'RE PHOTOGRAPHING THE BACKGROUND--THE HOUSE THAT YOU'RE PHOTOGRAPHING

1122 00:47:30,948 00:47:32,950 THAT THE CHARACTERS COME OUT, THAT THE CHARACTERS COME OUT,

1123 00:47:32,950 00:47:36,954 AND THE FOURTH LEVEL WOULD BE THE SUN AND THE SKY. AND THE FOURTH LEVEL WOULD BE THE SUN AND THE SKY.

1124 00:47:36,954 00:47:38,455 AND THEN THE CAMERA, AND THEN THE CAMERA,

1125 00:47:38,455 00:47:41,959 IF IT PANNED DOWN THROUGH THESE LEVELS, IF IT PANNED DOWN THROUGH THESE LEVELS,

1126 00:47:41,959 00:47:44,461 YOU GOT A THIRD-DIMENSION EFFECT. YOU GOT A THIRD-DIMENSION EFFECT.

1127 00:47:44,461 00:47:46,463 [BELL RINGING] [BELL RINGING]

1128 00:47:46,964 00:47:46,964 [BELL RINGING] [BELL RINGING]

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SOLOMAN: I think you could find

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1130 00:47:59,977 00:48:01,478 AMONG ANIMATORS AND ANIMATION HISTORIANS AMONG ANIMATORS AND ANIMATION HISTORIANS

1131 00:48:01,979 00:48:03,981 THATPINOCCHIO IS AS PERFECT THATPINOCCHIO IS AS PERFECT

1132 00:48:03,981 00:48:06,483 AS AN ANIMATED FEATURE HAS EVER GOTTEN AS AN ANIMATED FEATURE HAS EVER GOTTEN

1133 00:48:06,483 00:48:08,485 IN TERMS OF ITS ART DIRECTION, IN TERMS OF ITS ART DIRECTION,

1134 00:48:08,485 00:48:11,989 ITS ANIMATION, ITS LAYOUT, ITS SPECIAL EFFECTS. ITS ANIMATION, ITS LAYOUT, ITS SPECIAL EFFECTS.

1135 00:48:12,489 00:48:13,490 IT'S A GORGEOUS FILM IT'S A GORGEOUS FILM

1136 00:48:13,490 00:48:17,494 AND WITH A FRACTION OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND WITH A FRACTION OF THE TECHNOLOGY

1137 00:48:17,494 00:48:19,997 THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ARTISTS TODAY. THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ARTISTS TODAY.

1138 00:48:19,997 00:48:24,001 HE WAS GREAT FOR SPONTANEOUS IDEAS. HE WAS GREAT FOR SPONTANEOUS IDEAS.

1139 00:48:24,501 00:48:27,004 FOR INSTANCE, WHEN PINOCCHIO AND GEPPETTO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN PINOCCHIO AND GEPPETTO

1140 00:48:27,004 00:48:29,506 WERE LOCKED INSIDE OF THE WHALE, WERE LOCKED INSIDE OF THE WHALE,

1141 00:48:30,007 00:48:32,009 AND THEY DID SOMETHING IN THERE TO TICKLE HIM AND THEY DID SOMETHING IN THERE TO TICKLE HIM

1142 00:48:32,009 00:48:34,011 AND THE WHALE SNEEZES... AND THE WHALE SNEEZES...

1143 00:48:34,511 00:48:38,015 AND SNEEZES BOTH OF THEM IN THEIR BOAT OUT INTO THE WATER. AND SNEEZES BOTH OF THEM IN THEIR BOAT OUT INTO THE WATER.

1144 00:48:38,015 00:48:40,017 WALT LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, WALT LOOKED AT IT AND SAID,

1145 00:48:40,017 00:48:43,520 "WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING. IT'S NOT BAD." "WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING. IT'S NOT BAD."

1146 00:48:43,520 00:48:45,522 BUT HE SAID, "HOW ABOUT THEM SAYING GESUNDHEIT?" BUT HE SAID, "HOW ABOUT THEM SAYING GESUNDHEIT?"

1147 00:48:46,023 00:48:47,024 GESUNDHEIT! GESUNDHEIT!

1148 00:48:47,024 00:48:50,027 WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST LAUGHS THAT PICTURE EVER GOT. WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST LAUGHS THAT PICTURE EVER GOT.

1149 00:48:50,027 00:48:53,530 AN EVEN BOLDER EXPERIMENT WASFANTASIA. AN EVEN BOLDER EXPERIMENT WASFANTASIA.

1150 00:48:54,031 00:48:57,034 IN FACT,FANTASIAMAY HAVE BEEN THE MOST ORIGINAL IN FACT,FANTASIAMAY HAVE BEEN THE MOST ORIGINAL

1151 00:48:57,034 00:49:00,537 AND THE MOST UNUSUAL PROJECT DISNEY EVER UNDERTOOK. AND THE MOST UNUSUAL PROJECT DISNEY EVER UNDERTOOK.

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Doing this Sorcerer's Apprentice

with Mickey Mouse,

_________________________________

and I happened to have dinner

one night with Stokowski.

_________________________________

Stokowski said, "Oh, I would love

to conduct that for you."

_________________________________

Well, that led to not only doing

this one little short subject,

_________________________________

but it got us involved...

Well, I did all of Fantasia,

_________________________________

and before I knew it,

I ended up spending

_________________________________

400 and some odd thousand dollars

_________________________________

getting music with Stokowski.

_________________________________

(LAUGHS)

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1162 00:49:38,075 00:49:40,077 IT--COLOR SETS A MOOD. IT--COLOR SETS A MOOD.

1163 00:49:40,077 00:49:41,578 IT TELLS THEM THE STORY. IT TELLS THEM THE STORY.

1164 00:49:41,578 00:49:43,580 IT TELLS THEM... IT TELLS THEM...

1165 00:49:43,580 00:49:45,082 A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION

1166 00:49:45,582 00:49:46,583 JUST FROM COLOR. JUST FROM COLOR.

1167 00:49:46,583 00:49:49,086 YOU CAN'T MAKE GOOD MUSIC OUT OF ONE NOTE. YOU CAN'T MAKE GOOD MUSIC OUT OF ONE NOTE.

1168 00:49:49,086 00:49:51,088 YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEVERAL NOTES. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEVERAL NOTES.

1169 00:49:51,088 00:49:52,589 AND COLOR'S THE SAME WAY. AND COLOR'S THE SAME WAY.

1170 00:49:52,589 00:49:52,589 AND COLOR'S THE SAME WAY. AND COLOR'S THE SAME WAY.

1171 00:50:02,599 00:50:05,102 IT'S STILL ASTONISHING TO SEE THAT FILM. IT'S STILL ASTONISHING TO SEE THAT FILM.

1172 00:50:05,602 00:50:08,105 IN FACT, WHEN HE WAS DOING STORYBOARDS IN FACT, WHEN HE WAS DOING STORYBOARDS

1173 00:50:08,605 00:50:11,608 FOR THEAVE MARIA SECTION OFFANTASIA, FOR THEAVE MARIA SECTION OFFANTASIA,

1174 00:50:12,109 00:50:13,610 ONE OF THE STORY PEOPLE SAID, ONE OF THE STORY PEOPLE SAID,

1175 00:50:13,610 00:50:17,614 "I DON'T THINK WE'RE USING THE CARTOON MEDIUM "I DON'T THINK WE'RE USING THE CARTOON MEDIUM

1176 00:50:18,115 00:50:20,117 AS WE SHOULD BE WITH THIS KIND OF THING." AS WE SHOULD BE WITH THIS KIND OF THING."

1177 00:50:20,117 00:50:23,620 AND HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED ON THE GUY AND SAID, AND HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED ON THE GUY AND SAID,

1178 00:50:23,620 00:50:26,623 "THIS IS NOT THE CARTOON MEDIUM. "THIS IS NOT THE CARTOON MEDIUM.

1179 00:50:26,623 00:50:29,126 "WE SHOULDN'T BE THINKING OF THIS AS A CARTOON. "WE SHOULDN'T BE THINKING OF THIS AS A CARTOON.

1180 00:50:29,626 00:50:32,129 WE HAVE WORLDS TO CONQUER HERE." WE HAVE WORLDS TO CONQUER HERE."

1181 00:50:32,129 00:50:34,131 [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

1182 00:50:34,131 00:50:34,131 [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

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VAN DYKE: Walt wanted to

reproduce the sensation

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1184 00:50:48,645 00:50:52,149 OF HEARING MUSIC IN A CONCERT HALL. OF HEARING MUSIC IN A CONCERT HALL.

1185 00:50:52,149 00:50:56,653 THE RESULT WAS AN EARLY VERSION OF STEREOPHONIC SOUND. THE RESULT WAS AN EARLY VERSION OF STEREOPHONIC SOUND.

1186 00:50:56,653 00:50:58,155 THE TOTAL BUDGET OFFANTASIA THE TOTAL BUDGET OFFANTASIA

1187 00:50:58,155 00:51:01,158 NOW CAME TO WELL OVER $2 MILLION. NOW CAME TO WELL OVER $2 MILLION.

1188 00:51:01,658 00:51:01,658 NOW CAME TO WELL OVER $2 MILLION. NOW CAME TO WELL OVER $2 MILLION.

1189 00:51:07,164 00:51:10,167 THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BURBANK STUDIO WAS GOING WELL, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BURBANK STUDIO WAS GOING WELL,

1190 00:51:10,167 00:51:12,669 BUT IN SEPTEMBER OF 1939, BUT IN SEPTEMBER OF 1939,

1191 00:51:12,669 00:51:15,672 GERMAN DICTATOR ADOLF HITLER INVADED POLAND, GERMAN DICTATOR ADOLF HITLER INVADED POLAND,

1192 00:51:16,173 00:51:19,676 PLUNGING EUROPE INTO THE SECOND WORLD WAR. PLUNGING EUROPE INTO THE SECOND WORLD WAR.

1193 00:51:19,676 00:51:24,681 THE STUDIO'S INCOME FROM OVERSEAS DISTRIBUTION CEASED. THE STUDIO'S INCOME FROM OVERSEAS DISTRIBUTION CEASED.

1194 00:51:24,681 00:51:27,684 UNFORTUNATELY NEITHER PINOCCHIONORFANTASIA UNFORTUNATELY NEITHER PINOCCHIONORFANTASIA

1195 00:51:27,684 00:51:31,688 DUPLICATED THE SUCCESS OF SNOW WHITEAT THE BOX OFFICE. DUPLICATED THE SUCCESS OF SNOW WHITEAT THE BOX OFFICE.

1196 00:51:31,688 00:51:34,191 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, THE BIG ONE BEING FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, THE BIG ONE BEING

1197 00:51:34,191 00:51:37,194 THAT THE WAR HAD CUT OFF ABOUT 40% OF HIS REVENUES THAT THE WAR HAD CUT OFF ABOUT 40% OF HIS REVENUES

1198 00:51:37,194 00:51:38,695 FROM OVERSEAS MARKETS. FROM OVERSEAS MARKETS.

1199 00:51:38,695 00:51:40,697 AND IF HE COULD HAVE KEPT DOING FILMS AND IF HE COULD HAVE KEPT DOING FILMS

1200 00:51:40,697 00:51:42,699 THAT WERE AS EXPERIMENTAL ASFANTASIA, THAT WERE AS EXPERIMENTAL ASFANTASIA,

1201 00:51:42,699 00:51:46,203 THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT WE WOULD BE SEEING NOW THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT WE WOULD BE SEEING NOW

1202 00:51:46,203 00:51:48,705 IN ANIMATED FEATURES. IN ANIMATED FEATURES.

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VAN DYKE: Cash flowed out for

the next feature, Bambi.

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1204 00:51:54,211 00:51:56,713 IT WAS A DIFFICULT PICTURE IT WAS A DIFFICULT PICTURE

1205 00:51:56,713 00:52:00,717 BECAUSE WE'D NEVER DONE ANY CHARACTER WITH ANATOMY, BECAUSE WE'D NEVER DONE ANY CHARACTER WITH ANATOMY,

1206 00:52:01,218 00:52:02,719 ANY ANIMAL WITH ANATOMY, ANY ANIMAL WITH ANATOMY,

1207 00:52:02,719 00:52:06,223 AND WALT WANTED THE DEER TO BE VERY BELIEVABLE. AND WALT WANTED THE DEER TO BE VERY BELIEVABLE.

1208 00:52:06,723 00:52:09,726 WALT'S IDEA WAS TO GET ALL OF HIS ARTISTS WALT'S IDEA WAS TO GET ALL OF HIS ARTISTS

1209 00:52:10,227 00:52:13,730 TO DRAW IN THE WAY OF THE OLD MASTERS TO DRAW IN THE WAY OF THE OLD MASTERS

1210 00:52:13,730 00:52:15,732 AND THEN PUT THEM TO ANIMATION. AND THEN PUT THEM TO ANIMATION.

1211 00:52:15,732 00:52:17,734 THEY STARTED BRINGING IN REAL ANIMALS THEY STARTED BRINGING IN REAL ANIMALS

1212 00:52:17,734 00:52:20,737 AND HAVING THEM ON THE SOUNDSTAGES. AND HAVING THEM ON THE SOUNDSTAGES.

1213 00:52:20,737 00:52:23,740 THEY WOULD HAVE CAGES WITH ANIMALS AROUND THE PLACE. THEY WOULD HAVE CAGES WITH ANIMALS AROUND THE PLACE.

1214 00:52:23,740 00:52:25,242 IT BECAME A ZOO IN ITSELF. IT BECAME A ZOO IN ITSELF.

1215 00:52:25,242 00:52:28,745 WE WERE JUST GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS, WE WERE JUST GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS,

1216 00:52:28,745 00:52:32,249 AND WE WERE ABLE TO ANIMATE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE WERE ABLE TO ANIMATE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS

1217 00:52:32,249 00:52:35,252 WHICH WERE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO. WHICH WERE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.

1218 00:52:35,252 00:52:37,754 WHAT DID YOUR FATHER TELL YOU THIS MORNING? WHAT DID YOUR FATHER TELL YOU THIS MORNING?

1219 00:52:37,754 00:52:37,754 WHAT DID YOUR FATHER TELL YOU THIS MORNING? WHAT DID YOUR FATHER TELL YOU THIS MORNING?

1220 00:52:40,757 00:52:44,761 IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE... IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE...

1221 00:52:44,761 00:52:44,761 IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE... IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE...

1222 00:52:47,264 00:52:50,767 DON'T SAY NOTHIN' AT ALL. DON'T SAY NOTHIN' AT ALL.

1223 00:52:50,767 00:52:53,770 OF COURSE, THE GREAT THING IN THAT PICTURE OF COURSE, THE GREAT THING IN THAT PICTURE

1224 00:52:53,770 00:52:56,773 WAS HOW HE PRESENTED THE DEATH OF THE MOTHER. WAS HOW HE PRESENTED THE DEATH OF THE MOTHER.

1225 00:52:57,274 00:53:00,777 AND THAT WENT THROUGH STORY GUYS SAYING, AND THAT WENT THROUGH STORY GUYS SAYING,

1226 00:53:00,777 00:53:03,280 "WALT, WE GOTTA SHOW THE MOTHER LYING THERE "WALT, WE GOTTA SHOW THE MOTHER LYING THERE

1227 00:53:03,280 00:53:04,781 "AFTER SHE'S SHOT. "AFTER SHE'S SHOT.

1228 00:53:04,781 00:53:06,783 "AND BAMBI COMES BACK "AND BAMBI COMES BACK

1229 00:53:06,783 00:53:09,286 AND SEES THIS BLOODY MESS THERE." AND SEES THIS BLOODY MESS THERE."

1230 00:53:09,286 00:53:11,788 AND WALT SAYS, "GEE, I DON'T KNOW, GUYS. AND WALT SAYS, "GEE, I DON'T KNOW, GUYS.

1231 00:53:11,788 00:53:14,291 THAT JUST DOESN'T SOUND QUITE RIGHT." THAT JUST DOESN'T SOUND QUITE RIGHT."

1232 00:53:14,791 00:53:16,793 THE WAY HE FELT IT SHOULD BE THE WAY HE FELT IT SHOULD BE

1233 00:53:16,793 00:53:21,798 WAS THAT BAMBI COMES BACK AND SEARCHES... WAS THAT BAMBI COMES BACK AND SEARCHES...

1234 00:53:21,798 00:53:23,800 MOTHER! [SOBBING] MOTHER! [SOBBING]

1235 00:53:23,800 00:53:25,302 BUT HE NEVER SEES HER. BUT HE NEVER SEES HER.

1236 00:53:25,802 00:53:26,803 [GASPS] [GASPS]

1237 00:53:26,803 00:53:26,803 [GASPS] [GASPS]

1238 00:53:28,805 00:53:31,808 Stag: YOUR MOTHER CAN'T BE WITH YOU ANYMORE. Stag: YOUR MOTHER CAN'T BE WITH YOU ANYMORE.

1239 00:53:31,808 00:53:31,808 Stag: YOUR MOTHER CAN'T BE WITH YOU ANYMORE. Stag: YOUR MOTHER CAN'T BE WITH YOU ANYMORE.

1240 00:53:35,312 00:53:40,817 COME...MY SON. COME...MY SON.

1241 00:53:40,817 00:53:42,319 AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

1242 00:53:42,319 00:53:44,321 BAMBI LOOKS BACK IN THE SNOW BAMBI LOOKS BACK IN THE SNOW

1243 00:53:44,821 00:53:46,823 AND HE FOLLOWS HIS FATHER. AND HE FOLLOWS HIS FATHER.

1244 00:53:46,823 00:53:48,825 HE WAS THE BEST STORY MAN IN THE STUDIO, HE WAS THE BEST STORY MAN IN THE STUDIO,

1245 00:53:48,825 00:53:52,329 THE BEST STORY MAN IN HOLLYWOOD, REALLY. THE BEST STORY MAN IN HOLLYWOOD, REALLY.

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VAN DYKE: By 1941, the studio

was $4.5 million in debt.

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1247 00:53:58,335 00:54:02,339 WALT AND ROY ISSUED STOCK TO SHORE UP THEIR FINANCES, WALT AND ROY ISSUED STOCK TO SHORE UP THEIR FINANCES,

1248 00:54:02,339 00:54:04,841 BUT THAT WAS JUST A STOP-GAP MEASURE. BUT THAT WAS JUST A STOP-GAP MEASURE.

1249 00:54:04,841 00:54:06,977 A CRISIS WAS LOOMING. A CRISIS WAS LOOMING.

1250 00:54:06,977 00:54:06,977 A CRISIS WAS LOOMING. A CRISIS WAS LOOMING.

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ANDERSON: When they moved

to the Burbank Studio,

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1252 00:54:10,347 00:54:11,848 A LOT OF THE ARTISTS HAD COMPLAINED A LOT OF THE ARTISTS HAD COMPLAINED

1253 00:54:11,848 00:54:14,851 THAT IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS VERY COMPARTMENTALIZED, THAT IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS VERY COMPARTMENTALIZED,

1254 00:54:14,851 00:54:17,354 AND THAT THERE WAS A REAL CLASS SYSTEM AND THAT THERE WAS A REAL CLASS SYSTEM

1255 00:54:17,354 00:54:21,358 AMONGST THE VARIOUS ECHELONS AND LEVELS OF THE ARTISTS. AMONGST THE VARIOUS ECHELONS AND LEVELS OF THE ARTISTS.

1256 00:54:21,858 00:54:23,360 AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS

1257 00:54:23,360 00:54:25,362 WAS THE SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN REVENUES WAS THE SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN REVENUES

1258 00:54:25,862 00:54:26,863 THAT THE DISNEY STUDIOS THAT THE DISNEY STUDIOS

1259 00:54:26,863 00:54:28,865 FROM THE LOSS OF THE EUROPEAN MARKET FROM THE LOSS OF THE EUROPEAN MARKET

1260 00:54:28,865 00:54:30,867 DUE TO THE WAR. DUE TO THE WAR.

1261 00:54:30,867 00:54:32,369 MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU FIND THAT MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU FIND THAT

1262 00:54:32,369 00:54:34,371 THERE WERE EXCESSIVE RUMORS THERE WERE EXCESSIVE RUMORS

1263 00:54:34,371 00:54:35,872 RAMPANT AT THE DISNEY STUDIO RAMPANT AT THE DISNEY STUDIO

1264 00:54:35,872 00:54:38,875 TALKING ABOUT THE MASSIVE LAYOFFS TALKING ABOUT THE MASSIVE LAYOFFS

1265 00:54:38,875 00:54:40,377 THAT MOST ASSUREDLY WERE COMING THAT MOST ASSUREDLY WERE COMING

1266 00:54:40,377 00:54:42,879 AND THE MAJOR SALARY CUTS THAT WERE ON THE WAY. AND THE MAJOR SALARY CUTS THAT WERE ON THE WAY.

1267 00:54:42,879 00:54:45,382 SO THE DISNEY STUDIO WAS VERY RIPE SO THE DISNEY STUDIO WAS VERY RIPE

1268 00:54:45,382 00:54:47,884 FOR UNIONIZATION. FOR UNIONIZATION.

1269 00:54:47,884 00:54:47,884 FOR UNIONIZATION. FOR UNIONIZATION.

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VAN DYKE:

Pay levels were generally set

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1271 00:54:51,388 00:54:53,390 BY HOW MUCH WALT OR HIS TOP EXECUTIVES BY HOW MUCH WALT OR HIS TOP EXECUTIVES

1272 00:54:53,390 00:54:54,891 THOUGHT YOU WERE WORTH. THOUGHT YOU WERE WORTH.

1273 00:54:54,891 00:54:58,395 SENIORITY AND ITEMS LIKE THAT SENIORITY AND ITEMS LIKE THAT

1274 00:54:58,395 00:55:00,897 WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO EMPLOYEES WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO EMPLOYEES

1275 00:55:01,398 00:55:04,401 WERE KIND OF NOT HONORED WERE KIND OF NOT HONORED

1276 00:55:04,401 00:55:07,904 AND CREATED A FESTERING SITUATION. AND CREATED A FESTERING SITUATION.

1277 00:55:07,904 00:55:12,409 THIS LATTER UNION WAS LED BY A FELLOW NAMED HERBERT SORRELL, THIS LATTER UNION WAS LED BY A FELLOW NAMED HERBERT SORRELL,

1278 00:55:12,409 00:55:14,911 WHO WAS A VERY TOUGH, HARD-FISTED, WHO WAS A VERY TOUGH, HARD-FISTED,

1279 00:55:14,911 00:55:16,913 LEFT-WING, UNION ORGANIZER LEFT-WING, UNION ORGANIZER

1280 00:55:16,913 00:55:18,915 THAT WAS WELL-KNOWN THROUGHOUT HOLLYWOOD CIRCLES. THAT WAS WELL-KNOWN THROUGHOUT HOLLYWOOD CIRCLES.

1281 00:55:18,915 00:55:20,917 IN FACT, THE MERE MENTION OF HIS NAME IN FACT, THE MERE MENTION OF HIS NAME

1282 00:55:20,917 00:55:23,920 WOULD BRING MANY A STUDIO BOSS TO THEIR KNEES. WOULD BRING MANY A STUDIO BOSS TO THEIR KNEES.

1283 00:55:23,920 00:55:25,422 AND I TOLD MR. SORRELL AND I TOLD MR. SORRELL

1284 00:55:25,422 00:55:26,923 THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY FOR ME TO GO THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY FOR ME TO GO

1285 00:55:26,923 00:55:29,426 AND THAT'S AN ELECTION AND THAT'S WHAT THE LAW HAD SET UP, AND THAT'S AN ELECTION AND THAT'S WHAT THE LAW HAD SET UP,

1286 00:55:29,926 00:55:35,432 AND HE LAUGHED AT ME AND TOLD ME THAT I WAS NAIVE, AND HE LAUGHED AT ME AND TOLD ME THAT I WAS NAIVE,

1287 00:55:35,432 00:55:37,434 I WAS FOOLISH. I WAS FOOLISH.

1288 00:55:37,434 00:55:38,935 HE SAID, "YOU CAN'T STAND A STRIKE. HE SAID, "YOU CAN'T STAND A STRIKE.

1289 00:55:38,935 00:55:40,937 "I'LL SMEAR YOU AND I'LL MAKE A DUSTBOWL "I'LL SMEAR YOU AND I'LL MAKE A DUSTBOWL

1290 00:55:41,438 00:55:43,440 OUT OF YOUR PLACE IF I CHOOSE TO." OUT OF YOUR PLACE IF I CHOOSE TO."

1291 00:55:43,440 00:55:43,440 OUT OF YOUR PLACE IF I CHOOSE TO." OUT OF YOUR PLACE IF I CHOOSE TO."

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VAN DYKE: Both sides made mistakes.

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1293 00:55:47,944 00:55:49,946 WALT TURNED OVER NEGOTIATIONS WALT TURNED OVER NEGOTIATIONS

1294 00:55:49,946 00:55:53,450 TO A HARD-LINE STUDIO LAWYER--GUNTHER LESSING. TO A HARD-LINE STUDIO LAWYER--GUNTHER LESSING.

1295 00:55:53,950 00:55:57,454 GUNTHER LESSING AND, I GUESS, ROY DISNEY GUNTHER LESSING AND, I GUESS, ROY DISNEY

1296 00:55:57,454 00:56:00,457 TOOK OVER THE HANDLING OF THE SITUATION. TOOK OVER THE HANDLING OF THE SITUATION.

1297 00:56:00,457 00:56:03,460 THEY WERE ALL MY FRIENDS. I COULDN'T GO PAST THEM. THEY WERE ALL MY FRIENDS. I COULDN'T GO PAST THEM.

1298 00:56:03,460 00:56:04,961 AND A LOT OF THE GUYS THAT WENT THROUGH AND A LOT OF THE GUYS THAT WENT THROUGH

1299 00:56:04,961 00:56:06,963 THE PICKET LINE WERE MY FRIENDS ALSO, THE PICKET LINE WERE MY FRIENDS ALSO,

1300 00:56:06,963 00:56:09,966 AND I TRIED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME OUT AND JOIN US. AND I TRIED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME OUT AND JOIN US.

1301 00:56:09,966 00:56:09,966 AND I TRIED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME OUT AND JOIN US. AND I TRIED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME OUT AND JOIN US.

1302 00:56:11,968 00:56:13,970 I THINK UNTIL THAT MOMENT I THINK UNTIL THAT MOMENT

1303 00:56:13,970 00:56:16,473 THAT WALT REALLY THOUGHT OF EVERYBODY THAT WALT REALLY THOUGHT OF EVERYBODY

1304 00:56:16,973 00:56:20,477 AS FRIENDS WORKING TOGETHER. AS FRIENDS WORKING TOGETHER.

1305 00:56:20,477 00:56:20,977 AS FRIENDS WORKING TOGETHER. AS FRIENDS WORKING TOGETHER.

1306 00:56:22,979 00:56:27,484 AND HE WAS ASTONISHED TO SEE THE INGRATITUDE AND HE WAS ASTONISHED TO SEE THE INGRATITUDE

1307 00:56:27,484 00:56:30,487 OF THESE PEOPLE OUT THERE ON THE PICKET LINE, OF THESE PEOPLE OUT THERE ON THE PICKET LINE,

1308 00:56:30,987 00:56:32,989 YELLING NAMES AT HIM AS HE PASSED THROUGH YELLING NAMES AT HIM AS HE PASSED THROUGH

1309 00:56:33,490 00:56:34,491 WITH HIS DAUGHTERS. WITH HIS DAUGHTERS.

1310 00:56:34,491 00:56:34,491 WITH HIS DAUGHTERS. WITH HIS DAUGHTERS.

1311 00:56:36,493 00:56:39,496 I GUESS MAYBE HE WAS SPOILED BY THE FACT I GUESS MAYBE HE WAS SPOILED BY THE FACT

1312 00:56:39,496 00:56:41,998 HE'D HAD SO MUCH ADULATION AND SO MUCH SUCCESS. HE'D HAD SO MUCH ADULATION AND SO MUCH SUCCESS.

1313 00:56:41,998 00:56:44,000 CLEARLY, THE SUDDEN REALIZATION CLEARLY, THE SUDDEN REALIZATION

1314 00:56:44,000 00:56:45,502 THAT THIS WAS A DIVISION THAT THIS WAS A DIVISION

1315 00:56:45,502 00:56:50,006 BETWEEN BOSSES AND THE WORKERS. BETWEEN BOSSES AND THE WORKERS.

1316 00:56:50,507 00:56:52,008 HE THOUGHT HE WAS A FATHER FOR THESE PEOPLE HE THOUGHT HE WAS A FATHER FOR THESE PEOPLE

1317 00:56:52,509 00:56:54,010 AND THE CHILDREN WERE TURNING AGAINST HIM. AND THE CHILDREN WERE TURNING AGAINST HIM.

1318 00:56:54,010 00:56:56,513 HE WAS APPARENTLY, I GUESS, DEEPLY DISTURBED. HE WAS APPARENTLY, I GUESS, DEEPLY DISTURBED.

1319 00:56:56,513 00:56:59,015 HE WAS BETRAYED, AND HE HATED IT. HE WAS BETRAYED, AND HE HATED IT.

1320 00:56:59,015 00:57:01,017 AND I TOLD HIM IT WAS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE WITH ME AND I TOLD HIM IT WAS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE WITH ME

1321 00:57:01,017 00:57:03,019 THAT I COULDN'T GO ON WORKING WITH MY BOYS THAT I COULDN'T GO ON WORKING WITH MY BOYS

1322 00:57:03,019 00:57:06,022 FEELING I HAD SOLD THEM DOWN THE RIVER FEELING I HAD SOLD THEM DOWN THE RIVER

1323 00:57:06,022 00:57:08,024 TO HIM ON HIS SAY-SO. TO HIM ON HIS SAY-SO.

1324 00:57:08,024 00:57:08,024 TO HIM ON HIS SAY-SO. TO HIM ON HIS SAY-SO.

1325 00:57:12,529 00:57:14,531 [AIRPLANE ENGINE REVVING] [AIRPLANE ENGINE REVVING]

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VAN DYKE: In part to escape

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1327 00:57:16,533 00:57:19,035 FROM THE STRAINS OF UNION NEGOTIATIONS, FROM THE STRAINS OF UNION NEGOTIATIONS,

1328 00:57:19,536 00:57:22,038 WALT ACCEPTED AN INVITATION FROM THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT WALT ACCEPTED AN INVITATION FROM THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT

1329 00:57:22,038 00:57:25,041 TO TAKE A GOODWILL TOUR OF LATIN AMERICA. TO TAKE A GOODWILL TOUR OF LATIN AMERICA.

1330 00:57:25,041 00:57:25,041 TO TAKE A GOODWILL TOUR OF LATIN AMERICA. TO TAKE A GOODWILL TOUR OF LATIN AMERICA.

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And they first wanted me to go

on a handshaking goodwill tour,

_________________________________

and I said I don't go for it.

I'm not a good handshaker.

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Then they came back and said,

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"Will you go down and make some

films about these countries?"

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I said, "That's my business.

I can do that."

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ANDERSON: The timing was great.

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1338 00:57:43,560 00:57:47,063 IT WAS A BREAK FROM SOME OF THE TENSIONS IT WAS A BREAK FROM SOME OF THE TENSIONS

1339 00:57:47,063 00:57:48,565 THAT WERE GOING ON AT THE STUDIO. THAT WERE GOING ON AT THE STUDIO.

1340 00:57:48,565 00:57:50,567 BUT MY SENSE ALSO IS THAT BUT MY SENSE ALSO IS THAT

1341 00:57:50,567 00:57:52,569 HE WELCOMED A CHANCE TO JUMP INTO SOMETHING NEW. HE WELCOMED A CHANCE TO JUMP INTO SOMETHING NEW.

1342 00:57:52,569 00:57:55,572 HE KIND OF DOUBTED HIS ABILITY HE KIND OF DOUBTED HIS ABILITY

1343 00:57:55,572 00:57:58,575 AS A PUBLIC-RELATIONS MAN, AS A PUBLIC-RELATIONS MAN,

1344 00:57:58,575 00:58:00,076 BUT IF HE HAD ANY DOUBTS AT ALL, BUT IF HE HAD ANY DOUBTS AT ALL,

1345 00:58:00,577 00:58:01,578 THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ERASED THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ERASED

1346 00:58:01,578 00:58:04,080 WHEN HE FIRST ARRIVED IN THE MAJOR CITIES THERE, WHEN HE FIRST ARRIVED IN THE MAJOR CITIES THERE,

1347 00:58:04,080 00:58:07,083 BECAUSE HE WAS MOBBED EVERYWHERE HE WENT. BECAUSE HE WAS MOBBED EVERYWHERE HE WENT.

1348 00:58:07,083 00:58:07,083 BECAUSE HE WAS MOBBED EVERYWHERE HE WENT. BECAUSE HE WAS MOBBED EVERYWHERE HE WENT.

1349 00:58:16,092 00:58:17,594 AND WHILE WALT WAS IN SOUTH AMERICA, AND WHILE WALT WAS IN SOUTH AMERICA,

1350 00:58:18,094 00:58:19,095 THE STRIKE WAS SOLVED. THE STRIKE WAS SOLVED.

1351 00:58:19,596 00:58:20,597 IT WAS SOLVED PRETTY POORLY IT WAS SOLVED PRETTY POORLY

1352 00:58:20,597 00:58:22,098 AS FAR AS THE STUDIOS WERE CONCERNED. AS FAR AS THE STUDIOS WERE CONCERNED.

1353 00:58:22,098 00:58:23,099 WALT LATER COMMENTED, WALT LATER COMMENTED,

1354 00:58:23,099 00:58:25,101 AND IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TRUTH, AND IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TRUTH,

1355 00:58:25,101 00:58:26,603 THAT THE ARBITRATOR HAD GIVEN SORRELL THAT THE ARBITRATOR HAD GIVEN SORRELL

1356 00:58:27,103 00:58:29,105 PRACTICALLY EVERYTHING THAT THEY'D ASKED FOR. PRACTICALLY EVERYTHING THAT THEY'D ASKED FOR.

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VAN DYKE: While Walt was

in South America,

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1358 00:58:31,608 00:58:33,109 HE RECEIVED A CABLE FROM ROY HE RECEIVED A CABLE FROM ROY

1359 00:58:33,109 00:58:36,112 THAT THEIR FATHER ELIAS HAD DIED. THAT THEIR FATHER ELIAS HAD DIED.

1360 00:58:36,112 00:58:36,112 THAT THEIR FATHER ELIAS HAD DIED. THAT THEIR FATHER ELIAS HAD DIED.

1361 00:58:37,847 00:58:39,415 AT THE STUDIO, AT THE STUDIO,

1362 00:58:39,415 00:58:42,919 WORK CONTINUED ON ANOTHER PRODUCTION--DUMBO. WORK CONTINUED ON ANOTHER PRODUCTION--DUMBO.

1363 00:58:42,919 00:58:46,422 LOOK! HOT DIGGETY! YOU'RE FLYIN'! LOOK! HOT DIGGETY! YOU'RE FLYIN'!

1364 00:58:46,422 00:58:47,924 YOU'RE FLYIN'! YOU'RE FLYIN'!

1365 00:58:47,924 00:58:50,927 DUMBOWAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO APPEAR DUMBOWAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO APPEAR

1366 00:58:50,927 00:58:55,932 ON THE COVER OFTIMEMAGAZINE IN EARLY DECEMBER OF 1941, ON THE COVER OFTIMEMAGAZINE IN EARLY DECEMBER OF 1941,

1367 00:58:55,932 00:58:58,935 BUT WAS OVERTAKEN BY AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORY. BUT WAS OVERTAKEN BY AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORY.

1368 00:58:58,935 00:59:00,436 [BOMBS EXPLODING] [BOMBS EXPLODING]

1369 00:59:00,937 00:59:00,937 [BOMBS EXPLODING] [BOMBS EXPLODING]

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ROOSEVELT: A date which

will live in infamy...

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DISNEY: I was at home

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1372 00:59:11,447 00:59:13,950 WHEN WE GOT THE WORD THAT THEY BOMBED PEARL HARBOR. WHEN WE GOT THE WORD THAT THEY BOMBED PEARL HARBOR.

1373 00:59:13,950 00:59:16,953 SHORTLY AFTER THAT, I GOT A CALL FROM THE STUDIO MANAGER, SHORTLY AFTER THAT, I GOT A CALL FROM THE STUDIO MANAGER,

1374 00:59:16,953 00:59:19,956 AND HE HAD BEEN CALLED IN TURN BY THE POLICE. AND HE HAD BEEN CALLED IN TURN BY THE POLICE.

1375 00:59:19,956 00:59:21,958 HE SAID, "WALT, THE ARMY'S MOVING IN ON US. HE SAID, "WALT, THE ARMY'S MOVING IN ON US.

1376 00:59:22,458 00:59:24,460 "THEY CAME UP AND SAID THEY WANTED TO MOVE IN. "THEY CAME UP AND SAID THEY WANTED TO MOVE IN.

1377 00:59:24,460 00:59:25,962 "AND I SAID I HAD TO CALL YOU, "AND I SAID I HAD TO CALL YOU,

1378 00:59:25,962 00:59:27,964 AND THEY SAID,'CALL HIM, BUT WE'RE MOVING IN ANYWAY.'" AND THEY SAID,'CALL HIM, BUT WE'RE MOVING IN ANYWAY.'"

1379 00:59:27,964 00:59:31,968 SO 500 TROOPS MOVED IN THE STUDIO. SO 500 TROOPS MOVED IN THE STUDIO.

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VAN DYKE:

Their purpose was to protect

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1381 00:59:33,469 00:59:35,471 THE NEARBY LOCKHEED AIRCRAFT PLANT. THE NEARBY LOCKHEED AIRCRAFT PLANT.

1382 00:59:35,471 00:59:37,473 MEANWHILE, THE STUDIO RETOOLED MEANWHILE, THE STUDIO RETOOLED

1383 00:59:37,974 00:59:40,476 TO PRODUCE TRAINING AND PROPAGANDA FILMS. TO PRODUCE TRAINING AND PROPAGANDA FILMS.

1384 00:59:40,476 00:59:45,481 IT CAME TO A POINT TO WHERE WALT JUST COULDN'T MAINTAIN IT CAME TO A POINT TO WHERE WALT JUST COULDN'T MAINTAIN

1385 00:59:45,982 00:59:48,484 THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HE WAS TAKING ON AND TRAINING THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HE WAS TAKING ON AND TRAINING

1386 00:59:48,985 00:59:50,987 FOR ALL OF THE FILMS THAT HE WAS HOPING TO MAKE, FOR ALL OF THE FILMS THAT HE WAS HOPING TO MAKE,

1387 00:59:51,487 00:59:54,490 AND HE HAD TO START LETTING THEM GO. AND HE HAD TO START LETTING THEM GO.

1388 00:59:54,490 00:59:56,993 WALT, I ALWAYS FELT, MORE OR LESS WALT, I ALWAYS FELT, MORE OR LESS

1389 00:59:56,993 00:59:58,995 LOST CONTROL IN A SENSE, LOST CONTROL IN A SENSE,

1390 00:59:59,495 01:00:02,498 BECAUSE WE HAD-- SO MANY OF THE ARMY BRASS BECAUSE WE HAD-- SO MANY OF THE ARMY BRASS

1391 01:00:02,498 01:00:04,500 WAS THERE AT THE STUDIO, WAS THERE AT THE STUDIO,

1392 01:00:04,500 01:00:06,502 AND ALL OF THEM HAD ASPIRATIONS AND ALL OF THEM HAD ASPIRATIONS

1393 01:00:06,502 01:00:08,504 OF BEING A PRODUCER AND WHATNOT, OF BEING A PRODUCER AND WHATNOT,

1394 01:00:08,504 01:00:11,507 SO IT BECAME KIND OF A PUZZLING TIME FOR HIM. SO IT BECAME KIND OF A PUZZLING TIME FOR HIM.

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VAN DYKE: Walt continued to prowl

the studio on weekends.

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DIANE: On weekends,

the new Burbank studio

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1398 01:00:23,519 01:00:26,022 BECAME OUR PLAYGROUND-- MY SISTER'S AND MINE. BECAME OUR PLAYGROUND-- MY SISTER'S AND MINE.

1399 01:00:26,022 01:00:31,527 AND WE ROLLER-SKATED THERE, LEARNED TO RIDE BIKES THERE, AND WE ROLLER-SKATED THERE, LEARNED TO RIDE BIKES THERE,

1400 01:00:32,028 01:00:33,529 RODE BIKES ALL OVER THAT LOT. RODE BIKES ALL OVER THAT LOT.

1401 01:00:34,030 01:00:36,532 SOMETIMES DAD WOULD JOIN US. SOMETIMES DAD WOULD JOIN US.

1403 01:00:39,535 01:00:42,538 DAD, WITH US, DID EVERYTHING DAD, WITH US, DID EVERYTHING

1404 01:00:43,039 01:00:46,042 A NORMAL FATHER WOULD DO FOR HIS CHILDREN A NORMAL FATHER WOULD DO FOR HIS CHILDREN

1405 01:00:46,042 01:00:47,043 AND THEN SOME. AND THEN SOME.

1406 01:00:47,043 01:00:50,046 HE DROVE US TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES HE DROVE US TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES

1407 01:00:50,046 01:00:53,049 UNTIL I HAD A DRIVER'S LICENSE AND COULD DRIVE, UNTIL I HAD A DRIVER'S LICENSE AND COULD DRIVE,

1408 01:00:53,049 01:00:55,051 AND THEN HE CONTINUED TO DRIVE SHARON AND THEN HE CONTINUED TO DRIVE SHARON

1409 01:00:55,051 01:00:57,053 FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

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VAN DYKE: Walt did not want

to spoil his daughters,

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1411 01:00:59,555 01:01:03,559 BUT ON OCCASION HE DID HAVE A SPECIAL SURPRISE FOR THEM. BUT ON OCCASION HE DID HAVE A SPECIAL SURPRISE FOR THEM.

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DIANE: The most exciting

Christmas for us

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1413 01:01:06,562 01:01:08,564 WAS THE PLAYHOUSE CHRISTMAS. WAS THE PLAYHOUSE CHRISTMAS.

1414 01:01:08,564 01:01:11,567 HE WAS DIRECTING US AND HE SAID, HE WAS DIRECTING US AND HE SAID,

1415 01:01:11,567 01:01:13,569 "NOW GO OVER TO THE MAILBOX." "NOW GO OVER TO THE MAILBOX."

1416 01:01:13,569 01:01:13,569 "NOW GO OVER TO THE MAILBOX." "NOW GO OVER TO THE MAILBOX."

1417 01:01:16,572 01:01:18,574 "NOW GO TO THE GATE. OPEN THE GATE. "NOW GO TO THE GATE. OPEN THE GATE.

1418 01:01:18,574 01:01:22,078 "NOW GO INSIDE. "NOW GO INSIDE.

1419 01:01:22,078 01:01:24,580 "NOW OPEN THE TOP OF THE DOOR "NOW OPEN THE TOP OF THE DOOR

1420 01:01:25,081 01:01:33,589 AND LOOK OUT. DIANE, LEAN OUT FARTHER." AND LOOK OUT. DIANE, LEAN OUT FARTHER."

1421 01:01:33,589 01:01:35,091 AND I FELL ON MY FACE. AND I FELL ON MY FACE.

1422 01:01:35,091 01:01:39,095 I'M RELIEVED TO SEE HE DROPPED THE CAMERA IMMEDIATELY, I'M RELIEVED TO SEE HE DROPPED THE CAMERA IMMEDIATELY,

1423 01:01:39,095 01:01:42,098 BECAUSE ALL I REMEMBER IS WHEN I CAME UP CRYING BECAUSE ALL I REMEMBER IS WHEN I CAME UP CRYING

1424 01:01:42,598 01:01:45,601 WITH MY BLOODY LIP, HE WAS STILL FILMING ME. WITH MY BLOODY LIP, HE WAS STILL FILMING ME.

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VAN DYKE: Walt has been described

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1426 01:01:48,104 01:01:50,106 AS POLITICALLY CONSERVATIVE, AS POLITICALLY CONSERVATIVE,

1427 01:01:50,106 01:01:55,111 BUT THROUGH 1940 HE PRIMARILY VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS. BUT THROUGH 1940 HE PRIMARILY VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS.

1428 01:01:55,111 01:01:57,113 IN FACT, PEOPLE WHO KNEW HIM WELL IN FACT, PEOPLE WHO KNEW HIM WELL

1429 01:01:57,613 01:02:00,583 THOUGHT THAT IN POLITICS HE WAS SOMEWHAT NAIVE. THOUGHT THAT IN POLITICS HE WAS SOMEWHAT NAIVE.

1430 01:02:00,583 01:02:04,120 IN ANY CASE, WALT FIRMLY BELIEVED THAT THE 1941 STRIKE IN ANY CASE, WALT FIRMLY BELIEVED THAT THE 1941 STRIKE

1431 01:02:04,120 01:02:05,621 WAS INSPIRED BY COMMUNISTS. WAS INSPIRED BY COMMUNISTS.

1432 01:02:05,621 01:02:07,123 ...EVIDENTLY HEARD ...EVIDENTLY HEARD

1433 01:02:07,123 01:02:09,625 THAT I HAD CALLED THEM ALL A BUNCH OF COMMUNISTS, THAT I HAD CALLED THEM ALL A BUNCH OF COMMUNISTS,

1434 01:02:09,625 01:02:11,627 AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE. AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE.

1435 01:02:11,627 01:02:16,132 HOLLYWOOD WAS A NATURAL TARGET FOR THE POLITICIANS. HOLLYWOOD WAS A NATURAL TARGET FOR THE POLITICIANS.

1436 01:02:16,132 01:02:18,134 THAT'S THE WAY THEY COULD MAKE HEADLINES. THAT'S THE WAY THEY COULD MAKE HEADLINES.

1437 01:02:18,134 01:02:22,638 AND SO THEY WOULD BRING PEOPLE BEFORE AND SO THEY WOULD BRING PEOPLE BEFORE

1438 01:02:22,638 01:02:25,141 THE HOUSE UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE. THE HOUSE UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE.

1439 01:02:25,141 01:02:26,642 [BANGING] [BANGING]

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VAN DYKE: On October 24th, 1947,

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1441 01:02:29,645 01:02:32,148 WALT FOLLOWED GARY COOPER AND RONALD REAGAN WALT FOLLOWED GARY COOPER AND RONALD REAGAN

1442 01:02:32,148 01:02:34,650 IN TESTIFYING FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS. IN TESTIFYING FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS.

1443 01:02:34,650 01:02:39,155 AND I FEEL THAT THEY REALLY OUGHT TO BE SMOKED OUT AND I FEEL THAT THEY REALLY OUGHT TO BE SMOKED OUT

1444 01:02:39,155 01:02:41,157 AND SHOWN UP FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND SHOWN UP FOR WHAT THEY ARE

1445 01:02:41,157 01:02:43,659 SO THAT ALL THE GOOD FREE CAUSES IN THIS COUNTRY, SO THAT ALL THE GOOD FREE CAUSES IN THIS COUNTRY,

1446 01:02:43,659 01:02:45,661 ALL THE LIBERALISMS THAT REALLY ARE AMERICAN ALL THE LIBERALISMS THAT REALLY ARE AMERICAN

1447 01:02:45,661 01:02:48,664 CAN GO OUT WITHOUT THIS TAINT OF COMMUNISM. CAN GO OUT WITHOUT THIS TAINT OF COMMUNISM.

1448 01:02:48,664 01:02:48,664 CAN GO OUT WITHOUT THIS TAINT OF COMMUNISM. CAN GO OUT WITHOUT THIS TAINT OF COMMUNISM.

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VAN DYKE: One of the myths

that grew out of the strike era

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1450 01:02:54,670 01:02:56,672 WAS THAT WALT WAS ANTI-SEMITIC. WAS THAT WALT WAS ANTI-SEMITIC.

1451 01:02:56,672 01:02:59,675 WHEN THE 1955 B'NAI BRITH WANTED TO GIVE WALT WHEN THE 1955 B'NAI BRITH WANTED TO GIVE WALT

1452 01:03:00,176 01:03:01,677 ITS "MAN OF THE YEAR" AWARD, ITS "MAN OF THE YEAR" AWARD,

1453 01:03:01,677 01:03:03,679 IT RESEARCHED THE ISSUE IT RESEARCHED THE ISSUE

1454 01:03:03,679 01:03:06,182 AND FOUND IT TO BE QUITE UNTRUE. AND FOUND IT TO BE QUITE UNTRUE.

1455 01:03:06,182 01:03:07,683 IT WAS PURE NONSENSE. IT WAS PURE NONSENSE.

1456 01:03:08,184 01:03:10,686 I THINK THAT WHOLE IDEA SHOULD BE PUT TO REST I THINK THAT WHOLE IDEA SHOULD BE PUT TO REST

1457 01:03:10,686 01:03:15,191 AND BURIED DEEP, BECAUSE THERE'S NO VALIDITY THERE. AND BURIED DEEP, BECAUSE THERE'S NO VALIDITY THERE.

1458 01:03:15,191 01:03:17,193 IT'S SLANDER. IT'S SLANDER.

1459 01:03:17,193 01:03:22,198 WALT WAS THE MOST EVEN-DISPOSITIONED, WALT WAS THE MOST EVEN-DISPOSITIONED,

1460 01:03:22,198 01:03:25,201 EVEN-MINDED HUMAN BEING I EVER MET. EVEN-MINDED HUMAN BEING I EVER MET.

1461 01:03:25,201 01:03:27,203 IF A PERSON IS A NICE PERSON, HE LOVED YOU. IF A PERSON IS A NICE PERSON, HE LOVED YOU.

1462 01:03:27,203 01:03:29,705 I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR COLOR, YOUR RACE, YOUR CREED. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR COLOR, YOUR RACE, YOUR CREED.

1463 01:03:29,705 01:03:32,708 THAT'S THE WAY HE WAS. HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREJUDICE. THAT'S THE WAY HE WAS. HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREJUDICE.

1464 01:03:33,209 01:03:35,211 OVER THE YEARS, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME OVER THE YEARS, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME

1465 01:03:35,211 01:03:38,214 THAT SAME QUESTION ABOUT WALT BEING ANTI-SEMITIC THAT SAME QUESTION ABOUT WALT BEING ANTI-SEMITIC

1466 01:03:38,214 01:03:40,716 OR ANTI-BLACK. OR ANTI-BLACK.

1467 01:03:40,716 01:03:43,719 I WOULD RESPECTFULLY HAVE TO DISAGREE. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY HAVE TO DISAGREE.

1468 01:03:43,719 01:03:45,221 THAT WAS NOT THE MAN I KNEW. THAT WAS NOT THE MAN I KNEW.

1469 01:03:45,221 01:03:48,724 SPIKE LEE, WHO I RESPECT A GREAT DEAL AS A FILMMAKER, SPIKE LEE, WHO I RESPECT A GREAT DEAL AS A FILMMAKER,

1470 01:03:48,724 01:03:52,728 MADE A COMMENT ONCE ABOUT WALT BEING A RACIST, MADE A COMMENT ONCE ABOUT WALT BEING A RACIST,

1471 01:03:52,728 01:03:54,730 AND I'D HAVE TO SAY, AND I'D HAVE TO SAY,

1472 01:03:54,730 01:03:58,234 "SPIKE, YOU NEVER MET WALT. I DID." "SPIKE, YOU NEVER MET WALT. I DID."

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VAN DYKE: When the war ended,

the studio had lost its way.

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1474 01:04:01,737 01:04:04,740 ROY WANTED TO BE FINANCIALLY CONSERVATIVE. ROY WANTED TO BE FINANCIALLY CONSERVATIVE.

1475 01:04:05,241 01:04:07,243 WALT YEARNED FOR NEW ADVENTURES. WALT YEARNED FOR NEW ADVENTURES.

1476 01:04:07,743 01:04:09,745 THEY ARGUED OFTEN. THEY ARGUED OFTEN.

1477 01:04:09,745 01:04:11,747 FINALLY, THE BROTHERS AGREED TO DIVERSIFY FINALLY, THE BROTHERS AGREED TO DIVERSIFY

1478 01:04:12,248 01:04:15,751 AND TURNED TO LIVE-ACTION FILMS. AND TURNED TO LIVE-ACTION FILMS.

1479 01:04:15,751 01:04:17,253 ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS

1480 01:04:17,253 01:04:21,257 ABOUT WALT'S GRADUAL INVOLVEMENT IN LIVE ACTION, ABOUT WALT'S GRADUAL INVOLVEMENT IN LIVE ACTION,

1481 01:04:21,757 01:04:23,759 WAS THAT HE-- WAS THAT HE--

1482 01:04:23,759 01:04:26,262 WITHOUT HAVING A LOT OF FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE-- WITHOUT HAVING A LOT OF FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE--

1483 01:04:26,262 01:04:28,764 DID KNOW ONE THING-- HE WANTED HIS FILMS DID KNOW ONE THING-- HE WANTED HIS FILMS

1484 01:04:29,265 01:04:31,767 TO HAVE THE SAME QUALITY THAT HIS ANIMATED FILMS DID. TO HAVE THE SAME QUALITY THAT HIS ANIMATED FILMS DID.

1485 01:04:31,767 01:04:33,269 FORSONG OF THE SOUTH, FORSONG OF THE SOUTH,

1486 01:04:33,269 01:04:35,771 HE HIRED GREGG TOLAND TO DO THE CINEMATOGRAPHY. HE HIRED GREGG TOLAND TO DO THE CINEMATOGRAPHY.

1487 01:04:35,771 01:04:38,274 THIS WAS THE LEGENDARY CINEMATOGRAPHER THIS WAS THE LEGENDARY CINEMATOGRAPHER

1488 01:04:38,274 01:04:41,777 WHO SHOTCITIZEN KANE WITH ORSON WELLES WHO SHOTCITIZEN KANE WITH ORSON WELLES

1489 01:04:41,777 01:04:45,281 AND SCORES OF OTHER INCREDIBLE-LOOKING MOVIES. AND SCORES OF OTHER INCREDIBLE-LOOKING MOVIES.

1490 01:04:45,281 01:04:45,281 AND SCORES OF OTHER INCREDIBLE-LOOKING MOVIES. AND SCORES OF OTHER INCREDIBLE-LOOKING MOVIES.

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VAN DYKE: Walt dispatched

a couple, the Milottes,

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1492 01:04:49,785 01:04:52,788 TO ALASKA TO FILM WILDLIFE. TO ALASKA TO FILM WILDLIFE.

1493 01:04:52,788 01:04:54,290 FROM MILES OF MATERIAL, FROM MILES OF MATERIAL,

1494 01:04:54,290 01:04:57,293 HE PERSONALLY CRAFTED A STORY LINE. HE PERSONALLY CRAFTED A STORY LINE.

1495 01:04:57,293 01:05:01,797 THE RESULT WAS A HALF-HOUR FEATURE CALLEDSEAL ISLAND. THE RESULT WAS A HALF-HOUR FEATURE CALLEDSEAL ISLAND.

1496 01:05:01,797 01:05:04,300 RKO, DISNEY'S FILM DISTRIBUTOR, RKO, DISNEY'S FILM DISTRIBUTOR,

1497 01:05:04,300 01:05:05,801 THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA. THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA.

1498 01:05:06,302 01:05:08,804 WALT THEN RAN THE FILM IN A LOCAL THEATER WALT THEN RAN THE FILM IN A LOCAL THEATER

1499 01:05:09,305 01:05:11,307 TO QUALIFY IT FOR THE ACADEMY AWARDS. TO QUALIFY IT FOR THE ACADEMY AWARDS.

1500 01:05:11,307 01:05:15,311 SEAL ISLANDWON THE OSCAR FOR THE BEST DOCUMENTARY. SEAL ISLANDWON THE OSCAR FOR THE BEST DOCUMENTARY.

1501 01:05:15,311 01:05:17,313 SOON, TRUE-LIFE ADVENTURES SOON, TRUE-LIFE ADVENTURES

1502 01:05:17,313 01:05:20,316 BECAME ONE OF THE MAINSTAYS OF THE DISNEY STUDIO. BECAME ONE OF THE MAINSTAYS OF THE DISNEY STUDIO.

1503 01:05:20,316 01:05:20,816 BECAME ONE OF THE MAINSTAYS OF THE DISNEY STUDIO. BECAME ONE OF THE MAINSTAYS OF THE DISNEY STUDIO.

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MALTIN: After World War II,

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1505 01:05:27,823 01:05:29,325 GREAT BRITAIN AND SOME OTHER COUNTRIES, TOO, GREAT BRITAIN AND SOME OTHER COUNTRIES, TOO,

1506 01:05:29,325 01:05:31,827 DECIDED THAT THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO ALLOW DECIDED THAT THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO ALLOW

1507 01:05:31,827 01:05:34,830 AMERICAN MOVIE COMPANIES TO MAKE MONEY IN THEIR COUNTRIES AMERICAN MOVIE COMPANIES TO MAKE MONEY IN THEIR COUNTRIES

1508 01:05:35,331 01:05:37,333 AND THEN TAKE THAT MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTRY. AND THEN TAKE THAT MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

1509 01:05:37,333 01:05:39,335 WALT DISNEY MOVIES MADE A LOT OF MONEY WALT DISNEY MOVIES MADE A LOT OF MONEY

1510 01:05:39,335 01:05:40,336 IN ENGLAND AND THE U.K., IN ENGLAND AND THE U.K.,

1511 01:05:40,336 01:05:43,339 BUT THAT MONEY WOULD HAVE TO REMAIN IN THE U.K. BUT THAT MONEY WOULD HAVE TO REMAIN IN THE U.K.

1512 01:05:43,339 01:05:45,341 AND BE SPENT THERE. AND BE SPENT THERE.

1513 01:05:45,341 01:05:47,343 I GUESS THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, I GUESS THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS,

1514 01:05:47,343 01:05:48,844 "WELL, WE HAVE TO MAKE A FILM IN ENGLAND. "WELL, WE HAVE TO MAKE A FILM IN ENGLAND.

1515 01:05:48,844 01:05:50,846 WHAT SHOULD WE MAKE THERE?" WHAT SHOULD WE MAKE THERE?"

1516 01:05:50,846 01:05:53,349 THAT LED THEM TO A CLASSIC-- TREASURE ISLAND THAT LED THEM TO A CLASSIC-- TREASURE ISLAND

1517 01:05:53,349 01:05:56,852 WHAT'S COME OVER YE, LAD? CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE? WHAT'S COME OVER YE, LAD? CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE?

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MALTIN: One thing he

may have contributed

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1519 01:05:58,354 01:06:00,356 TO THE LIVE-ACTION FILM SCENE TO THE LIVE-ACTION FILM SCENE

1520 01:06:00,356 01:06:02,358 THAT ISN'T WIDELY RECOGNIZED THAT ISN'T WIDELY RECOGNIZED

1521 01:06:02,358 01:06:04,860 IS THE USE OF STORYBOARDS. IS THE USE OF STORYBOARDS.

1522 01:06:04,860 01:06:05,861 DISNEY, OF COURSE, DISNEY, OF COURSE,

1523 01:06:06,362 01:06:08,364 HAD PERFECTED THE STORYBOARD PROCESS HAD PERFECTED THE STORYBOARD PROCESS

1524 01:06:08,364 01:06:09,865 FIRST IN HIS SHORT SUBJECTS FIRST IN HIS SHORT SUBJECTS

1525 01:06:09,865 01:06:11,867 AND THEN HIS ANIMATED FEATURE FILMS, AND THEN HIS ANIMATED FEATURE FILMS,

1526 01:06:11,867 01:06:14,370 BUT NO ONE HAD REALLY LEANED ON THAT TECHNIQUE BUT NO ONE HAD REALLY LEANED ON THAT TECHNIQUE

1527 01:06:14,370 01:06:16,872 FOR PLANNING OUT A LIVE-ACTION FILM FOR PLANNING OUT A LIVE-ACTION FILM

1528 01:06:16,872 01:06:17,873 UNTIL HE DID. UNTIL HE DID.

1529 01:06:17,873 01:06:17,873 UNTIL HE DID. UNTIL HE DID.

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VAN DYKE: Walt took the opportunity

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1531 01:06:21,877 01:06:25,881 TO BRING HIS DAUGHTERS ALONG ON THEIR FIRST TRIP TO EUROPE. TO BRING HIS DAUGHTERS ALONG ON THEIR FIRST TRIP TO EUROPE.

1532 01:06:25,881 01:06:26,882 TREASURE ISLAND TREASURE ISLAND

1533 01:06:26,882 01:06:29,385 AND SEVERAL BRITISH FILMS THAT FOLLOWED AND SEVERAL BRITISH FILMS THAT FOLLOWED

1534 01:06:29,385 01:06:31,887 GAVE WALT HIS START IN LIVE-ACTION GAVE WALT HIS START IN LIVE-ACTION

1535 01:06:31,887 01:06:34,890 AND ALSO BROUGHT HIM IN CONTACT WITH A NEW GROUP AND ALSO BROUGHT HIM IN CONTACT WITH A NEW GROUP

1536 01:06:34,890 01:06:36,392 OF TALENTED MEN AND WOMEN. OF TALENTED MEN AND WOMEN.

1537 01:06:36,392 01:06:39,895 AMONG THEM WERE DIRECTOR KEN ANNAKIN AMONG THEM WERE DIRECTOR KEN ANNAKIN

1538 01:06:39,895 01:06:43,399 AND THE MASTER MATTE ARTIST PETER ELLENSHAW. AND THE MASTER MATTE ARTIST PETER ELLENSHAW.

1539 01:06:43,899 01:06:45,401 THE LESSON I HAD FROM WALT THE LESSON I HAD FROM WALT

1540 01:06:45,901 01:06:46,902 ON MY SECOND PICTURE WITH HIM, ON MY SECOND PICTURE WITH HIM,

1541 01:06:46,902 01:06:49,905 ONSWORD AND THE ROSE, WHERE HE SAID, ONSWORD AND THE ROSE, WHERE HE SAID,

1542 01:06:49,905 01:06:53,409 "DID I EVER QUESTION THE BUDGET WITH YOU "DID I EVER QUESTION THE BUDGET WITH YOU

1543 01:06:53,409 01:06:55,411 AND QUESTION WHAT YOU WERE SPENDING?" AND QUESTION WHAT YOU WERE SPENDING?"

1544 01:06:55,411 01:06:57,913 AND I SAID, "NO," AND HE SAYS, "WELL, AND I SAID, "NO," AND HE SAYS, "WELL,

1545 01:06:57,913 01:07:00,916 LET'S GET THE SEQUENCE." LET'S GET THE SEQUENCE."

1546 01:07:01,417 01:07:03,419 THAT BECAME THE GUIDING FACTOR WITH ME THAT BECAME THE GUIDING FACTOR WITH ME

1547 01:07:03,419 01:07:05,921 FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE WITH WALT. FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE WITH WALT.

1548 01:07:05,921 01:07:08,424 HE'D BE VERY ANNOYED IF YOU WENT OVER AND SAID, HE'D BE VERY ANNOYED IF YOU WENT OVER AND SAID,

1549 01:07:08,424 01:07:10,926 "HELLO, MR. DISNEY." "HELLO, MR. DISNEY."

1550 01:07:10,926 01:07:12,928 "WHAT SO-- WHAT DO YOU WANT?" "WHAT SO-- WHAT DO YOU WANT?"

1551 01:07:12,928 01:07:14,430 AND HE WOULD ALSO VERY ANNOYED AND HE WOULD ALSO VERY ANNOYED

1552 01:07:14,430 01:07:16,932 IF YOU SAID "MR. DISNEY," IF YOU SAID "MR. DISNEY,"

1553 01:07:16,932 01:07:19,435 BECAUSE AS SOON AS I CAME TO AMERICA, BECAUSE AS SOON AS I CAME TO AMERICA,

1554 01:07:19,935 01:07:22,438 HE TOLD ME, "I'M WALT. HE TOLD ME, "I'M WALT.

1555 01:07:22,438 01:07:23,939 YOU'RE PETER, I'M WALT." YOU'RE PETER, I'M WALT."

1556 01:07:23,939 01:07:23,939 YOU'RE PETER, I'M WALT." YOU'RE PETER, I'M WALT."

1557 01:07:26,942 01:07:28,444 [RUMBLING, WHISTLING] [RUMBLING, WHISTLING]

1558 01:07:28,944 01:07:28,944 [RUMBLING, WHISTLING] [RUMBLING, WHISTLING]

1559 01:07:30,446 01:07:32,448 WALT AND HIS SISTER WALT AND HIS SISTER

1560 01:07:32,448 01:07:34,450 AND ROY, TOO, SOMETIMES AND ROY, TOO, SOMETIMES

1561 01:07:34,950 01:07:35,951 WOULD RACE DOWN THE STREET WOULD RACE DOWN THE STREET

1562 01:07:36,452 01:07:37,453 WHEN THEY HEARD THE TRAIN WHISTLE WHEN THEY HEARD THE TRAIN WHISTLE

1563 01:07:37,453 01:07:38,954 IN THE DISTANCE IN THE DISTANCE

1564 01:07:38,954 01:07:41,457 AND STAND BY THE TRAIN TRACKS AND WAVE AND STAND BY THE TRAIN TRACKS AND WAVE

1565 01:07:41,457 01:07:44,460 AS UNCLE MIKE MARTIN CAME BY AS UNCLE MIKE MARTIN CAME BY

1566 01:07:44,460 01:07:46,962 IN HIS HUGE LOCOMOTIVE. IN HIS HUGE LOCOMOTIVE.

1567 01:07:47,463 01:07:47,463 IN HIS HUGE LOCOMOTIVE. IN HIS HUGE LOCOMOTIVE.

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VAN DYKE: When Walt was little,

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1569 01:07:50,466 01:07:52,468 HE HAD FEW TOYS. HE HAD FEW TOYS.

1570 01:07:52,468 01:07:54,470 NOW HOBBIES BECAME IMPORTANT, NOW HOBBIES BECAME IMPORTANT,

1571 01:07:54,970 01:07:57,973 AND NONE MORE SO THAN HIS LOVE FOR MODEL TRAINS. AND NONE MORE SO THAN HIS LOVE FOR MODEL TRAINS.

1572 01:07:57,973 01:07:59,975 THERE WERE OTHER TRAIN BUFFS AT THE STUDIO, THERE WERE OTHER TRAIN BUFFS AT THE STUDIO,

1573 01:07:59,975 01:08:02,978 INCLUDING OLLIE JOHNSTON AND WARD KIMBALL. INCLUDING OLLIE JOHNSTON AND WARD KIMBALL.

1574 01:08:03,479 01:08:04,980 WARD KIMBALL, WHO WORKED WITH WALT WARD KIMBALL, WHO WORKED WITH WALT

1575 01:08:04,980 01:08:05,981 FOR MANY, MANY YEARS-- FOR MANY, MANY YEARS--

1576 01:08:06,482 01:08:08,484 HE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL NINE OLD MEN HE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL NINE OLD MEN

1577 01:08:08,484 01:08:10,986 AND ALSO A GREAT RAILROADER. AND ALSO A GREAT RAILROADER.

1578 01:08:10,986 01:08:12,488 HE AND HIS WIFE BETTY HE AND HIS WIFE BETTY

1579 01:08:12,488 01:08:13,489 WERE THE FIRST PRIVATE CITIZENS WERE THE FIRST PRIVATE CITIZENS

1580 01:08:13,489 01:08:14,990 IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE UNITED STATES

1581 01:08:14,990 01:08:17,493 TO OWN THEIR OWN STEAM LOCOMOTIVE. TO OWN THEIR OWN STEAM LOCOMOTIVE.

1582 01:08:17,493 01:08:19,495 OUT IN SAN GABRIEL, OUT IN SAN GABRIEL,

1583 01:08:19,495 01:08:22,498 AND WARD REALIZED THAT HE HAD NEVER INVITED THE BOSS AND WARD REALIZED THAT HE HAD NEVER INVITED THE BOSS

1584 01:08:22,498 01:08:26,001 TO COME OUT AND SEE THE RAILROAD IN THE BACKYARD. TO COME OUT AND SEE THE RAILROAD IN THE BACKYARD.

1585 01:08:26,001 01:08:28,003 AT A PARTY ONE NIGHT, AT A PARTY ONE NIGHT,

1586 01:08:28,003 01:08:32,508 AND HE CAME TO IT. AND HE CAME TO IT.

1587 01:08:32,508 01:08:35,511 I ASKED HIM IF HE'D LIKE TO RUN THE LOCOMOTIVE, I ASKED HIM IF HE'D LIKE TO RUN THE LOCOMOTIVE,

1588 01:08:35,511 01:08:38,514 AND I-- SO, OH, HE REFUSED THAT. AND I-- SO, OH, HE REFUSED THAT.

1589 01:08:38,514 01:08:40,516 "YOU RUN IT. YOU KNOW." "YOU RUN IT. YOU KNOW."

1590 01:08:41,016 01:08:43,018 I SAID, "WELL, IT'S SIMPLE, WALT. I SAID, "WELL, IT'S SIMPLE, WALT.

1591 01:08:43,018 01:08:46,021 "YOU TAKE THE JOHNSON BAR AND SHOVE IT FORWARD. "YOU TAKE THE JOHNSON BAR AND SHOVE IT FORWARD.

1592 01:08:46,021 01:08:48,524 THAT MEANS IT'S GOING FORWARD." THAT MEANS IT'S GOING FORWARD."

1593 01:08:48,524 01:08:51,026 AND HE RAN IT, AND I CAN REMEMBER AND HE RAN IT, AND I CAN REMEMBER

1594 01:08:51,026 01:08:53,529 HOW HIS MOUTH DROPPED OPEN... HOW HIS MOUTH DROPPED OPEN...

1595 01:08:53,529 01:08:53,529 HOW HIS MOUTH DROPPED OPEN... HOW HIS MOUTH DROPPED OPEN...

1596 01:08:55,531 01:08:57,533 AND WHAT HE WAS DOING. AND WHAT HE WAS DOING.

1597 01:08:57,533 01:09:00,035 SO HE CALLS ME EARLY IN THE MORNING. SO HE CALLS ME EARLY IN THE MORNING.

1598 01:09:00,536 01:09:02,037 I SAID, "WALT WHO?" I SAID, "WALT WHO?"

1599 01:09:02,037 01:09:05,541 AND HE SAYS, "WALT DISNEY, FOR GOSH SAKES!" AND HE SAYS, "WALT DISNEY, FOR GOSH SAKES!"

1600 01:09:05,541 01:09:07,543 "ANYWAY, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO BACK "ANYWAY, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO BACK

1601 01:09:07,543 01:09:09,545 TO THE CHICAGO RAILROAD FAIR?" TO THE CHICAGO RAILROAD FAIR?"

1602 01:09:10,045 01:09:10,045 TO THE CHICAGO RAILROAD FAIR?" TO THE CHICAGO RAILROAD FAIR?"

1603 01:09:14,049 01:09:18,554 WE RODE IN THE CAB, AND I TOOK MOVIES OF THAT. WE RODE IN THE CAB, AND I TOOK MOVIES OF THAT.

1604 01:09:18,554 01:09:21,056 AND WALT WAS OVER THE ENGINEER. AND WALT WAS OVER THE ENGINEER.

1605 01:09:21,056 01:09:23,559 IT WAS A DIESEL. IT WAS A DIESEL.

1606 01:09:23,559 01:09:27,062 THE ENGINEER SAID WHEN YOU SEE A SIGN OUT THE SIDE THE ENGINEER SAID WHEN YOU SEE A SIGN OUT THE SIDE

1607 01:09:27,563 01:09:29,064 YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BLOW THE WHISTLE. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BLOW THE WHISTLE.

1608 01:09:29,064 01:09:33,068 AND SO HE GOT A KICK OUT OF BLOWING THE WHISTLE. AND SO HE GOT A KICK OUT OF BLOWING THE WHISTLE.

1609 01:09:33,068 01:09:33,068 AND SO HE GOT A KICK OUT OF BLOWING THE WHISTLE. AND SO HE GOT A KICK OUT OF BLOWING THE WHISTLE.

1610 01:09:38,574 01:09:40,075 [WHISTLE BLOWING] [WHISTLE BLOWING]

1611 01:09:40,075 01:09:40,576 [WHISTLE BLOWING] [WHISTLE BLOWING]

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MALTIN: Walt decided he had to have

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A live steam layout for himself.

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VAN DYKE: Lilly's idea of a

nicely-landscaped home

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1615 01:09:58,093 01:10:00,095 DIDN'T INCLUDE A RAILROAD, DIDN'T INCLUDE A RAILROAD,

1616 01:10:00,095 01:10:02,598 SO WALT LAID THE TRACK IN SUCH A WAY SO WALT LAID THE TRACK IN SUCH A WAY

1617 01:10:02,598 01:10:06,101 THAT IT WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH HER FLOWER BEDS. THAT IT WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH HER FLOWER BEDS.

1618 01:10:06,101 01:10:07,603 SO HE VISITED MY FATHER SO HE VISITED MY FATHER

1619 01:10:07,603 01:10:09,605 AT THE MACHINE SHOP IN THE STUDIO. AT THE MACHINE SHOP IN THE STUDIO.

1620 01:10:09,605 01:10:12,608 AND HE SAID, "ROGER, CAN YOU BUILD AND HE SAID, "ROGER, CAN YOU BUILD

1621 01:10:12,608 01:10:15,110 "A MINIATURE LIVE STEAM TRAIN "A MINIATURE LIVE STEAM TRAIN

1622 01:10:15,110 01:10:17,112 FOR OUR NEW HOME?" FOR OUR NEW HOME?"

1623 01:10:17,112 01:10:19,114 AND MY FATHER HAD LEARNED EARLY ON WORKING FOR WALT, AND MY FATHER HAD LEARNED EARLY ON WORKING FOR WALT,

1624 01:10:19,114 01:10:21,116 IF WALT SAID, "CAN YOU DO IT," IF WALT SAID, "CAN YOU DO IT,"

1625 01:10:21,116 01:10:22,618 YOU SAY, "YES," YOU SAY, "YES,"

1626 01:10:22,618 01:10:25,621 AND THEN YOU FIGURE OUT LATER HOW YOU'RE GONNA. AND THEN YOU FIGURE OUT LATER HOW YOU'RE GONNA.

1627 01:10:25,621 01:10:25,621 AND THEN YOU FIGURE OUT LATER HOW YOU'RE GONNA. AND THEN YOU FIGURE OUT LATER HOW YOU'RE GONNA.

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VAN DYKE: Before long,

Walt had his train.

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1629 01:10:30,626 01:10:32,127 IT WAS 1/8 SCALE. IT WAS 1/8 SCALE.

1630 01:10:32,127 01:10:36,131 WALT CALLED IT THE CAROLWOOD PACIFIC RAILROAD. WALT CALLED IT THE CAROLWOOD PACIFIC RAILROAD.

1631 01:10:36,131 01:10:36,131 WALT CALLED IT THE CAROLWOOD PACIFIC RAILROAD. WALT CALLED IT THE CAROLWOOD PACIFIC RAILROAD.

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MALTIN: And to ride on the

Carolwood Pacific railroad

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1633 01:10:44,139 01:10:45,641 WAS A TREASURED EXPERIENCE. WAS A TREASURED EXPERIENCE.

1634 01:10:45,641 01:10:49,144 NO ONE HAD A BACKYARD LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. NO ONE HAD A BACKYARD LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.

1635 01:10:49,144 01:10:49,144 NO ONE HAD A BACKYARD LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. NO ONE HAD A BACKYARD LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.

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VAN DYKE: Walt built a barn

on his property

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1637 01:10:57,152 01:10:59,154 WHICH CLOSELY RESEMBLED THE DISNEY BARN WHICH CLOSELY RESEMBLED THE DISNEY BARN

1638 01:10:59,154 01:11:01,657 IN MARCELINE AS HE REMEMBERED IT. IN MARCELINE AS HE REMEMBERED IT.

1639 01:11:02,157 01:11:05,160 IT BECAME HIS MACHINE SHOP WHERE HE WORKED ON TRAINS IT BECAME HIS MACHINE SHOP WHERE HE WORKED ON TRAINS

1640 01:11:05,160 01:11:07,162 AND MINIATURES UNTIL LATE IN THE NIGHT. AND MINIATURES UNTIL LATE IN THE NIGHT.

1641 01:11:07,663 01:11:07,663 AND MINIATURES UNTIL LATE IN THE NIGHT. AND MINIATURES UNTIL LATE IN THE NIGHT.

1642 01:11:08,664 01:11:12,167 NO MATTER HOW FAMOUS OR SUCCESSFUL WALT BECAME, NO MATTER HOW FAMOUS OR SUCCESSFUL WALT BECAME,

1643 01:11:12,167 01:11:14,670 HIS TASTES STAYED PLAIN AND SIMPLE HIS TASTES STAYED PLAIN AND SIMPLE

1644 01:11:14,670 01:11:17,172 AT HOME AND WHEN HE TRAVELED. AT HOME AND WHEN HE TRAVELED.

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WALKER: Walt would always

take with him chili and beans

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1646 01:11:19,675 01:11:22,177 IN CANS BECAUSE HE LOVED THAT, IN CANS BECAUSE HE LOVED THAT,

1647 01:11:22,177 01:11:24,680 AND HE COULDN'T GET GOOD CHILI AND BEANS IN LONDON. AND HE COULDN'T GET GOOD CHILI AND BEANS IN LONDON.

1648 01:11:24,680 01:11:27,182 HE COULD GET GOURMET FOOD, BUT THAT ALWAYS TICKLED ME. HE COULD GET GOURMET FOOD, BUT THAT ALWAYS TICKLED ME.

1649 01:11:27,182 01:11:30,686 HE'D HAVE DINNER IN HIS SUITE IN THE HOTEL HE'D HAVE DINNER IN HIS SUITE IN THE HOTEL

1650 01:11:30,686 01:11:34,189 AND HE'D HAVE THE WAITER GET THE CANS OF CHILI AND BEANS AND HE'D HAVE THE WAITER GET THE CANS OF CHILI AND BEANS

1651 01:11:34,189 01:11:36,191 AND WE'D HAVE THE CRACKERS AND THE WHOLE BIT. AND WE'D HAVE THE CRACKERS AND THE WHOLE BIT.

1652 01:11:36,692 01:11:36,692 AND WE'D HAVE THE CRACKERS AND THE WHOLE BIT. AND WE'D HAVE THE CRACKERS AND THE WHOLE BIT.

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VAN DYKE: Diane and Sharon

were teenagers now,

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1654 01:11:43,699 01:11:46,702 BUT WALT HAD ANOTHER BIG IDEA THAT HAD BEEN GROWING BUT WALT HAD ANOTHER BIG IDEA THAT HAD BEEN GROWING

1655 01:11:46,702 01:11:48,704 SINCE HIS DAUGHTERS WERE SMALL. SINCE HIS DAUGHTERS WERE SMALL.

1656 01:11:48,704 01:11:52,207 WELL, IT CAME ABOUT WHEN MY DAUGHTERS WERE VERY YOUNG. WELL, IT CAME ABOUT WHEN MY DAUGHTERS WERE VERY YOUNG.

1657 01:11:52,207 01:11:56,712 SATURDAY WAS ALWAYS DADDY'S DAY WITH THE TWO DAUGHTERS. SATURDAY WAS ALWAYS DADDY'S DAY WITH THE TWO DAUGHTERS.

1658 01:11:56,712 01:11:56,712 SATURDAY WAS ALWAYS DADDY'S DAY WITH THE TWO DAUGHTERS. SATURDAY WAS ALWAYS DADDY'S DAY WITH THE TWO DAUGHTERS.

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DISNEY: So we'd start out

and try to go someplace.

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DIANE: And then we'd

go to Griffith Park

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1661 01:12:06,221 01:12:07,723 AND THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL CAROUSEL THERE. AND THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL CAROUSEL THERE.

1662 01:12:07,723 01:12:09,725 IT'S STILL THERE. IT'S STILL THERE.

1663 01:12:09,725 01:12:12,227 WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL THING. WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL THING.

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DISNEY: As I'd sit there while they

rode the merry-go-round,

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1665 01:12:15,731 01:12:16,732 DID ALL THESE THINGS, DID ALL THESE THINGS,

1666 01:12:16,732 01:12:20,235 I'D SIT ON A BENCH EATING PEANUTS, I'D SIT ON A BENCH EATING PEANUTS,

1667 01:12:20,235 01:12:23,739 I FELT THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING BUILT, I FELT THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING BUILT,

1668 01:12:23,739 01:12:26,241 SOME KIND OF AN AMUSEMENT ENTERPRISE BUILT SOME KIND OF AN AMUSEMENT ENTERPRISE BUILT

1669 01:12:26,241 01:12:28,243 WHERE THE PARENTS AND THE CHILDREN WHERE THE PARENTS AND THE CHILDREN

1670 01:12:28,243 01:12:30,746 COULD HAVE FUN TOGETHER. COULD HAVE FUN TOGETHER.

1671 01:12:31,246 01:12:34,750 HE, AT FIRST, WAS GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE RIDE HE, AT FIRST, WAS GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE RIDE

1672 01:12:34,750 01:12:37,252 WHERE, ACROSS RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WHERE, ACROSS RIVERSIDE DRIVE,

1673 01:12:37,252 01:12:42,257 YOU'D GET ON HIS ONE-HALF SCALE STEAMER, YOU'D GET ON HIS ONE-HALF SCALE STEAMER,

1674 01:12:42,257 01:12:44,760 AND WOULD GO UNDER RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND WOULD GO UNDER RIVERSIDE DRIVE

1675 01:12:45,260 01:12:48,263 UP TO WHERE THE SOUNDSTAGES WERE. UP TO WHERE THE SOUNDSTAGES WERE.

1676 01:12:48,764 01:12:50,766 AND YOU'D SET ALL THESE LITTLE CARS AND YOU'D SET ALL THESE LITTLE CARS

1677 01:12:50,766 01:12:53,268 AND GO FROM ONE PICTURE TO ANOTHER AND GO FROM ONE PICTURE TO ANOTHER

1678 01:12:53,268 01:12:55,771 TO SEE HOW HOLLYWOOD WORKED. TO SEE HOW HOLLYWOOD WORKED.

1679 01:12:55,771 01:12:59,775 AT THE TIME THAT WALT WAS THINKING ABOUT BUILDING A PARK, AT THE TIME THAT WALT WAS THINKING ABOUT BUILDING A PARK,

1680 01:12:59,775 01:13:02,277 MOST AMUSEMENT PARKS WERE NOT SOMEPLACE MOST AMUSEMENT PARKS WERE NOT SOMEPLACE

1681 01:13:02,277 01:13:04,279 THAT YOU'D WANT TO LET YOUR KIDS GO ON THEIR OWN. THAT YOU'D WANT TO LET YOUR KIDS GO ON THEIR OWN.

1682 01:13:04,279 01:13:06,281 YOU PRETTY MUCH-- THEY WERE KIND OF DIRTY, YOU PRETTY MUCH-- THEY WERE KIND OF DIRTY,

1683 01:13:06,782 01:13:07,783 THEY WERE KIND OF SEEDY. THEY WERE KIND OF SEEDY.

1684 01:13:07,783 01:13:11,787 THERE WAS A PARK IN COPENHAGEN CALLED TIVOLI THERE WAS A PARK IN COPENHAGEN CALLED TIVOLI

1685 01:13:11,787 01:13:14,289 AND IT STRUCK WALT AND IT STRUCK WALT

1686 01:13:14,790 01:13:19,294 BY BEING VERY, VERY CLEAN, WELL RUN, FESTIVE. BY BEING VERY, VERY CLEAN, WELL RUN, FESTIVE.

1687 01:13:19,294 01:13:21,797 LITTLE POPCORN LIGHTS ON ALL THE BUILDINGS EVERYWHERE. LITTLE POPCORN LIGHTS ON ALL THE BUILDINGS EVERYWHERE.

1688 01:13:21,797 01:13:24,800 A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT SORT OF CAME BACK INTO DISNEYLAND A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT SORT OF CAME BACK INTO DISNEYLAND

1689 01:13:24,800 01:13:26,802 I THINK ALSO CAME FROM TIVOLI. I THINK ALSO CAME FROM TIVOLI.

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LINKLETTER:

And when we went through

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1691 01:13:29,805 01:13:31,306 THE TIVOLI GARDENS, THE TIVOLI GARDENS,

1692 01:13:31,306 01:13:33,809 HE WAS MAKING NOTES ALL THE TIME, HE WAS MAKING NOTES ALL THE TIME,

1693 01:13:34,309 01:13:36,311 AND I SAID, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" AND I SAID, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?"

1694 01:13:36,311 01:13:38,814 AND HE SAYS, "I'M JUST MAKING NOTES AND HE SAYS, "I'M JUST MAKING NOTES

1695 01:13:38,814 01:13:40,816 "ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS DREAMED ABOUT, "ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS DREAMED ABOUT,

1696 01:13:40,816 01:13:42,317 "AND THAT IS SOMEDAY "AND THAT IS SOMEDAY

1697 01:13:42,818 01:13:45,821 "HAVING A GREAT, GREAT CENTER PLAYGROUNDS "HAVING A GREAT, GREAT CENTER PLAYGROUNDS

1698 01:13:45,821 01:13:49,324 FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES OF AMERICA." FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES OF AMERICA."

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VAN DYKE: Roy felt

the company's stockholders

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1700 01:13:51,326 01:13:53,829 WOULDN'T THINK IT MADE SENSE FOR A FILM COMPANY WOULDN'T THINK IT MADE SENSE FOR A FILM COMPANY

1701 01:13:53,829 01:13:56,832 TO GO INTO THE AMUSEMENT-PARK BUSINESS. TO GO INTO THE AMUSEMENT-PARK BUSINESS.

1702 01:13:56,832 01:13:58,834 CINDERELLA,THE FIRST FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON CINDERELLA,THE FIRST FEATURE-LENGTH CARTOON

1703 01:13:58,834 01:14:02,337 SINCE THE WAR, HAD BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS IN 1950. SINCE THE WAR, HAD BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS IN 1950.

1704 01:14:02,337 01:14:04,840 HELLO, FRIEND. WELL, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, HELLO, FRIEND. WELL, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE,

1705 01:14:04,840 01:14:06,341 WE'RE ALL STEAMED UP OUT HERE WE'RE ALL STEAMED UP OUT HERE

1706 01:14:06,341 01:14:08,343 OVERALICE IN WONDERLAND. OVERALICE IN WONDERLAND.

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VAN DYKE: Alice in Wonderland

and Peter Pan were to follow.

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1708 01:14:11,847 01:14:13,849 WHEN WALT WOULD BE COMING DOWN THE HALL WHEN WALT WOULD BE COMING DOWN THE HALL

1709 01:14:13,849 01:14:15,350 TO THE MEETING, TO THE MEETING,

1710 01:14:15,350 01:14:17,853 WHY, THE DIRECTOR WOULD SAY, WHY, THE DIRECTOR WOULD SAY,

1711 01:14:17,853 01:14:19,855 "HEY, EVERYBODY. MAN'S IN THE FOREST." "HEY, EVERYBODY. MAN'S IN THE FOREST."

1712 01:14:20,355 01:14:22,357 THAT MEANT THAT WALT WAS COMING. THAT MEANT THAT WALT WAS COMING.

1713 01:14:22,357 01:14:23,859 AND GENERALLY YOU COULD HEAR... AND GENERALLY YOU COULD HEAR...

1714 01:14:23,859 01:14:26,361 [COUGHING] [COUGHING]

1715 01:14:26,361 01:14:30,866 IF WALT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS IN A BAD HUMOR, IF WALT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS IN A BAD HUMOR,

1716 01:14:30,866 01:14:32,868 THE GUARD WOULD SAY, "BEAR SUIT," THE GUARD WOULD SAY, "BEAR SUIT,"

1717 01:14:32,868 01:14:37,372 AND WE ALL KNEW THAT THIS WAS NOT A GOOD DAY. AND WE ALL KNEW THAT THIS WAS NOT A GOOD DAY.

1718 01:14:37,372 01:14:38,874 ONE DAY HE WOULD COME IN ONE DAY HE WOULD COME IN

1719 01:14:38,874 01:14:40,876 AND APPARENTLY BE LIKE A WOUNDED BEAR, AND APPARENTLY BE LIKE A WOUNDED BEAR,

1720 01:14:40,876 01:14:42,377 GROWLING AND SCOWLING, GROWLING AND SCOWLING,

1721 01:14:42,377 01:14:45,380 AND YET IF HE SAW SOMETHING AND YET IF HE SAW SOMETHING

1722 01:14:45,380 01:14:47,382 ON THE STORYBOARD THAT CAUGHT HIS FANCY, ON THE STORYBOARD THAT CAUGHT HIS FANCY,

1723 01:14:47,382 01:14:49,885 HE WOULD JUMP UP AND BECOME THE CHARACTER HE WOULD JUMP UP AND BECOME THE CHARACTER

1724 01:14:49,885 01:14:51,386 AND MAKE EVERYBODY LAUGH. AND MAKE EVERYBODY LAUGH.

1725 01:14:51,386 01:14:51,386 AND MAKE EVERYBODY LAUGH. AND MAKE EVERYBODY LAUGH.

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VAN DYKE: Over the years,

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1727 01:14:53,889 01:14:56,391 THE STUDIO HAD BECOME INCREASINGLY BUREAUCRATIC, THE STUDIO HAD BECOME INCREASINGLY BUREAUCRATIC,

1728 01:14:56,391 01:14:59,895 LESS OPEN TO SPONTANEOUS IDEAS. LESS OPEN TO SPONTANEOUS IDEAS.

1729 01:14:59,895 01:15:03,398 IN RESPONSE, WALT CREATED WED ENTERPRISES IN RESPONSE, WALT CREATED WED ENTERPRISES

1730 01:15:03,398 01:15:06,401 FOR WALTER ELIAS DISNEY. FOR WALTER ELIAS DISNEY.

1731 01:15:06,401 01:15:08,403 WED WAS ORGANIZED OR DEVELOPED WED WAS ORGANIZED OR DEVELOPED

1732 01:15:08,403 01:15:10,906 SO THAT WALT COULD INCORPORATE HIS NAME. SO THAT WALT COULD INCORPORATE HIS NAME.

1733 01:15:10,906 01:15:13,909 AND THEN, HE IN TURN, THEN, NEGOTIATED AND THEN, HE IN TURN, THEN, NEGOTIATED

1734 01:15:13,909 01:15:16,912 A CONTRACT WITH WALT DISNEY PRODUCTIONS A CONTRACT WITH WALT DISNEY PRODUCTIONS

1735 01:15:16,912 01:15:19,414 TO LICENSE THE NAME TO LICENSE THE NAME

1736 01:15:19,414 01:15:22,417 AND TO DERIVE ROYALTIES FROM THE SALE AND TO DERIVE ROYALTIES FROM THE SALE

1737 01:15:22,417 01:15:25,420 OF CHARACTER MERCHANDISE AND INCOME. OF CHARACTER MERCHANDISE AND INCOME.

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VAN DYKE: WED would

become the design center

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1739 01:15:27,422 01:15:29,925 BEHIND ALL THE EARLY PLANS AND ATTRACTIONS BEHIND ALL THE EARLY PLANS AND ATTRACTIONS

1740 01:15:29,925 01:15:30,926 FOR DISNEYLAND. FOR DISNEYLAND.

1741 01:15:30,926 01:15:32,427 WELL, IT WAS HIS SANDBOX. WELL, IT WAS HIS SANDBOX.

1742 01:15:32,427 01:15:33,929 HE SAID IT WAS HIS SANDBOX. HE SAID IT WAS HIS SANDBOX.

1743 01:15:33,929 01:15:36,431 HE SAID, "THIS IS WHERE I COME TO HAVE FUN." HE SAID, "THIS IS WHERE I COME TO HAVE FUN."

1744 01:15:36,431 01:15:38,433 AND WE HAD NOTHING BUT FUN WITH WALT. AND WE HAD NOTHING BUT FUN WITH WALT.

1745 01:15:38,934 01:15:40,936 I MEAN, HE WAS A RIOT. I MEAN, HE WAS A RIOT.

1746 01:15:40,936 01:15:42,437 AND WHEN WE'D BE WORKING ON SOMETHING, AND WHEN WE'D BE WORKING ON SOMETHING,

1747 01:15:42,938 01:15:43,939 HE COULD HARDLY STAND IT. HE COULD HARDLY STAND IT.

1748 01:15:43,939 01:15:44,940 IF I'D BE SOLDERING SOMETHING, IF I'D BE SOLDERING SOMETHING,

1749 01:15:44,940 01:15:47,943 HE WOULD ALMOST WANT TO SOLDER IT HIMSELF, YOU KNOW? HE WOULD ALMOST WANT TO SOLDER IT HIMSELF, YOU KNOW?

1750 01:15:48,443 01:15:49,444 AT THE BEGINNING, IT WAS ALL SALT MONEY. AT THE BEGINNING, IT WAS ALL SALT MONEY.

1751 01:15:49,945 01:15:51,446 IN FACT, HE HAWKED HIS LIFE INSURANCE IN FACT, HE HAWKED HIS LIFE INSURANCE

1752 01:15:51,446 01:15:53,448 AND A FEW OTHER THINGS TO GET THE MONEY AND A FEW OTHER THINGS TO GET THE MONEY

1753 01:15:53,448 01:15:55,951 TO BEGIN TO DO THE THINGS HE WANTED TO DO TO BEGIN TO DO THE THINGS HE WANTED TO DO

1754 01:15:55,951 01:15:59,955 TO GET THE DISNEYLAND PROJECT STARTED. TO GET THE DISNEYLAND PROJECT STARTED.

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VAN DYKE: But where

would the new park go?

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"BUZZ" PRICE: We had 10 sites

that we'd looked at.

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1757 01:16:04,960 01:16:11,466 THE FIRST SITE WAS HARBOR AT THE 5, THE FIRST SITE WAS HARBOR AT THE 5,

1758 01:16:11,466 01:16:13,468 AT THE SANTA ANA FREEWAY. AT THE SANTA ANA FREEWAY.

1759 01:16:13,468 01:16:15,971 AND HE WENT FOR THE FIRST SITE. AND HE WENT FOR THE FIRST SITE.

1760 01:16:15,971 01:16:17,472 AND ALL HE DID WAS AND ALL HE DID WAS

1761 01:16:17,973 01:16:19,474 HE MOVED IT DOWN A QUARTER OF A SECTION HE MOVED IT DOWN A QUARTER OF A SECTION

1762 01:16:19,975 01:16:22,477 TO GET IT AWAY FROM THE FREEWAY. TO GET IT AWAY FROM THE FREEWAY.

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VAN DYKE: While Walt was able

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1764 01:16:23,979 01:16:25,981 TO GET THE PARK STARTED WITH HIS OWN MONEY, TO GET THE PARK STARTED WITH HIS OWN MONEY,

1765 01:16:25,981 01:16:28,483 HE COULDN'T AFFORD TO ACTUALLY BUILD IT. HE COULDN'T AFFORD TO ACTUALLY BUILD IT.

1766 01:16:28,483 01:16:31,486 HE SAW THE SOLUTION IN TELEVISION. HE SAW THE SOLUTION IN TELEVISION.

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BILL: Other producers,

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1768 01:16:33,488 01:16:34,489 THE REST OF THE HOLLYWOOD COMMUNITY, THE REST OF THE HOLLYWOOD COMMUNITY,

1769 01:16:34,489 01:16:35,490 WAS SCARED TO DEATH OF TELEVISION. WAS SCARED TO DEATH OF TELEVISION.

1770 01:16:35,490 01:16:36,992 THEY SAW THAT IF PEOPLE SAT HOME THEY SAW THAT IF PEOPLE SAT HOME

1771 01:16:36,992 01:16:38,493 AND WATCHED TV FOR FREE, AND WATCHED TV FOR FREE,

1772 01:16:38,493 01:16:39,995 THAT WOULD BE AN ADMISSION TICKET THAT WOULD BE AN ADMISSION TICKET

1773 01:16:39,995 01:16:41,997 NOT SOLD AT THE MOVIE THEATER. NOT SOLD AT THE MOVIE THEATER.

1774 01:16:42,497 01:16:44,666 SO WALT REALLY STOOD OUT. SO WALT REALLY STOOD OUT.

1775 01:16:45,000 01:16:46,001 SO, YOU SEE, THIS IS THE RESULT SO, YOU SEE, THIS IS THE RESULT

1776 01:16:46,501 01:16:48,503 OF BEING A GOOD BOY FOR 30 YEARS. OF BEING A GOOD BOY FOR 30 YEARS.

1777 01:16:48,503 01:16:50,005 SANTA FINALLY CAME ACROSS. SANTA FINALLY CAME ACROSS.

1778 01:16:50,005 01:16:51,506 SEE THAT LITTLE THROTTLE IN THERE? SEE THAT LITTLE THROTTLE IN THERE?

1779 01:16:51,506 01:16:52,507 SEE THAT THING THERE? SEE THAT THING THERE?

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VAN DYKE: In December of 1950,

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1781 01:16:54,009 01:16:56,511 WALT HAD PRODUCED HIS FIRST TELEVISION SHOW WALT HAD PRODUCED HIS FIRST TELEVISION SHOW

1782 01:16:56,511 01:16:57,512 SCHEDULED FOR CHRISTMAS. SCHEDULED FOR CHRISTMAS.

1783 01:16:58,013 01:16:58,013 SCHEDULED FOR CHRISTMAS. SCHEDULED FOR CHRISTMAS.

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BILL: One Hour in Wonderland

was basically

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1785 01:17:02,517 01:17:05,020 A ONE-HOUR COMMERCIAL FORALICE IN WONDERLAND. A ONE-HOUR COMMERCIAL FORALICE IN WONDERLAND.

1786 01:17:05,020 01:17:07,022 THERE WAS A LOT OF FOOTAGE OF OTHER THINGS THERE WAS A LOT OF FOOTAGE OF OTHER THINGS

1787 01:17:07,522 01:17:08,523 THAT THE STUDIO WAS DOING, THAT THE STUDIO WAS DOING,

1788 01:17:08,523 01:17:10,525 CLIPS OF DIFFERENT CARTOONS. CLIPS OF DIFFERENT CARTOONS.

1789 01:17:10,525 01:17:14,029 IT WAS BASICALLY A WELL-PLANNED INFOMERCIAL-- IT WAS BASICALLY A WELL-PLANNED INFOMERCIAL--

1790 01:17:14,529 01:17:16,531 ANOTHER WAY THAT WALT WAS AHEAD OF HIS TIME. ANOTHER WAY THAT WALT WAS AHEAD OF HIS TIME.

1791 01:17:16,531 01:17:19,034 WILL IT REALLY DO MAGIC, MR. DISNEY? WILL IT REALLY DO MAGIC, MR. DISNEY?

1792 01:17:19,034 01:17:20,035 OH, SURE. OH, SURE.

1793 01:17:20,035 01:17:22,037 I'M A LITTLE RUSTY, THOUGH. I'M A LITTLE RUSTY, THOUGH.

1794 01:17:22,037 01:17:23,038 WE'LL TRY IT. WE'LL TRY IT.

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VAN DYKE: Walt produced

one more special,

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1796 01:17:25,540 01:17:27,042 BUT HE WOULD NOT RE-ENTER TELEVISION BUT HE WOULD NOT RE-ENTER TELEVISION

1797 01:17:27,042 01:17:29,044 FOR SEVERAL YEARS. FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

1798 01:17:29,544 01:17:32,047 STILL, THE POSSIBILITIES NEVER LEFT HIS MIND. STILL, THE POSSIBILITIES NEVER LEFT HIS MIND.

1799 01:17:32,047 01:17:35,050 DID YOU GIRLS KNOW THIS CHARACTER DISNEY? DID YOU GIRLS KNOW THIS CHARACTER DISNEY?

1800 01:17:35,050 01:17:37,052 YES. HE'S OUR FATHER. YES. HE'S OUR FATHER.

1801 01:17:37,052 01:17:38,553 UH...OH. UH...OH.

1802 01:17:38,553 01:17:40,055 HEH HEH HEH HEH. HEH HEH HEH HEH.

1803 01:17:40,055 01:17:41,556 [GROANS] [GROANS]

1804 01:17:41,556 01:17:41,556 [GROANS] [GROANS]

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VAN DYKE: Roy was finally convinced

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1806 01:17:49,064 01:17:52,567 THAT DISNEYLAND WAS A VIABLE VENTURE. THAT DISNEYLAND WAS A VIABLE VENTURE.

1807 01:17:52,567 01:17:54,069 HE PREPARED TO TRAVEL TO NEW YORK HE PREPARED TO TRAVEL TO NEW YORK

1808 01:17:54,069 01:17:57,572 TO SUBMIT THE IDEA TO POTENTIAL FINANCIERS. TO SUBMIT THE IDEA TO POTENTIAL FINANCIERS.

1809 01:17:58,073 01:18:00,575 HE NEEDED SOMETHING TO SHOW THEM, HE NEEDED SOMETHING TO SHOW THEM,

1810 01:18:00,575 01:18:03,078 SO WALT TURNED TO HIS FRIEND HERB RYMAN, SO WALT TURNED TO HIS FRIEND HERB RYMAN,

1811 01:18:03,078 01:18:06,581 AN ARTIST WHO HAD WORKED FOR THE STUDIO IN THE 1940s. AN ARTIST WHO HAD WORKED FOR THE STUDIO IN THE 1940s.

1812 01:18:06,581 01:18:06,581 AN ARTIST WHO HAD WORKED FOR THE STUDIO IN THE 1940s. AN ARTIST WHO HAD WORKED FOR THE STUDIO IN THE 1940s.

1813 01:18:10,085 01:18:12,087 ROY COMPLETED A DEAL WITH ABC ROY COMPLETED A DEAL WITH ABC

1814 01:18:12,587 01:18:14,089 WHICH GRANTED THE TELEVISION NETWORK WHICH GRANTED THE TELEVISION NETWORK

1815 01:18:14,089 01:18:16,591 A 35% STAKE IN DISNEYLAND A 35% STAKE IN DISNEYLAND

1816 01:18:16,591 01:18:18,093 IN RETURN FOR AN INVESTMENT IN RETURN FOR AN INVESTMENT

1817 01:18:18,093 01:18:21,096 OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

1818 01:18:21,096 01:18:23,098 IN THE BEGINNING OF 1954, IN THE BEGINNING OF 1954,

1819 01:18:23,098 01:18:26,601 ABC PRESIDENT ROBERT KINTNER AND WALT WENT ON THE AIR ABC PRESIDENT ROBERT KINTNER AND WALT WENT ON THE AIR

1820 01:18:27,102 01:18:28,603 TO ANNOUNCE THEIR PARTNERSHIP-- TO ANNOUNCE THEIR PARTNERSHIP--

1821 01:18:28,603 01:18:30,605 THE DEVELOPMENT OF A WEEKLY SHOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF A WEEKLY SHOW

1822 01:18:30,605 01:18:32,607 CALLEDDISNEYLAND. CALLEDDISNEYLAND.

1823 01:18:32,607 01:18:34,609 THIS IS A NEW MEDIUM, THIS IS A NEW MEDIUM,

1824 01:18:34,609 01:18:37,112 AND, WELL... AND, WELL...

1825 01:18:37,112 01:18:39,114 I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU

1826 01:18:39,114 01:18:41,116 THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING IT LIGHTLY, THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING IT LIGHTLY,

1827 01:18:41,116 01:18:42,617 THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE

1828 01:18:42,617 01:18:45,120 JUST A LITTLE STEPCHILD OF THE DISNEY ORGANIZATION. JUST A LITTLE STEPCHILD OF THE DISNEY ORGANIZATION.

1829 01:18:45,120 01:18:47,122 IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF OUR MAJOR ENTERPRISES. IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF OUR MAJOR ENTERPRISES.

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BILL: Walt definitely

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1831 01:18:49,124 01:18:50,625 DID NOT WANT TO HOST A TV SERIES. DID NOT WANT TO HOST A TV SERIES.

1832 01:18:50,625 01:18:52,627 THEY HAD A LOT OF STUDIES THAT WENT ON THEY HAD A LOT OF STUDIES THAT WENT ON

1833 01:18:52,627 01:18:54,629 LOOKING AT OTHER PEOPLE. LOOKING AT OTHER PEOPLE.

1834 01:18:54,629 01:18:58,133 FINALLY, AS EACH STUDY WENT BACK AND SHOWED, FINALLY, AS EACH STUDY WENT BACK AND SHOWED,

1835 01:18:58,133 01:18:59,134 THAT IT WAS WALT WHO HAD THAT IT WAS WALT WHO HAD

1836 01:18:59,134 01:19:01,136 THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF ENTHUSIASM. THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF ENTHUSIASM.

1837 01:19:01,136 01:19:03,138 NOW WE WANT YOU TO SHARE WITH US NOW WE WANT YOU TO SHARE WITH US

1838 01:19:03,638 01:19:06,141 OUR LATEST AND GREATEST DREAM. OUR LATEST AND GREATEST DREAM.

1839 01:19:06,641 01:19:09,144 THAT'S IT, RIGHT HERE-- THAT'S IT, RIGHT HERE--

1840 01:19:09,144 01:19:10,645 DISNEYLAND. DISNEYLAND.

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VAN DYKE: Shooting Walt's lead-ins

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1842 01:19:12,147 01:19:13,648 WAS QUITE THE CHALLENGE. WAS QUITE THE CHALLENGE.

1843 01:19:14,149 01:19:16,651 YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT AS NERVOUS AS YOU CAN GET YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT AS NERVOUS AS YOU CAN GET

1844 01:19:16,651 01:19:18,153 IS WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH IS WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH

1845 01:19:18,653 01:19:20,655 DIRECTING WALT ON HIS LEAD-INS. DIRECTING WALT ON HIS LEAD-INS.

1846 01:19:20,655 01:19:23,658 I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SHOW, AND INCIDENTALLY... I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SHOW, AND INCIDENTALLY...

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RON: Every once in a while,

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1848 01:19:25,160 01:19:27,162 HE WOULD GET HUNG UP ON CERTAIN WORDS. HE WOULD GET HUNG UP ON CERTAIN WORDS.

1849 01:19:27,162 01:19:28,163 THE WORD "ALUMINUM," I GUESS, THE WORD "ALUMINUM," I GUESS,

1850 01:19:28,163 01:19:29,664 WAS PARTICULARLY TOUGH FOR WALT. WAS PARTICULARLY TOUGH FOR WALT.

1851 01:19:30,165 01:19:31,666 THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO THINK-- THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO THINK--

1852 01:19:32,167 01:19:34,669 "I'LL DO MANY," AND MA-MM-MA, YOU KNOW? "I'LL DO MANY," AND MA-MM-MA, YOU KNOW?

1853 01:19:34,669 01:19:36,171 AND HE COULDN'T SAY IT. AND HE COULDN'T SAY IT.

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VAN DYKE: For three years,

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1855 01:19:38,173 01:19:40,675 DISNEYLANDWAS THE ONLY ABC SHOW DISNEYLANDWAS THE ONLY ABC SHOW

1856 01:19:40,675 01:19:44,179 IN THE TOP 15 RATED PROGRAMS. IN THE TOP 15 RATED PROGRAMS.

1857 01:19:44,179 01:19:47,682 WHEN WALT STARTED SHOOTING EPISODES FORDISNEYLAND, WHEN WALT STARTED SHOOTING EPISODES FORDISNEYLAND,

1858 01:19:47,682 01:19:50,685 HE DECIDED TO TAKE ON THE ADDED EXPENSE HE DECIDED TO TAKE ON THE ADDED EXPENSE

1859 01:19:50,685 01:19:52,187 TO SHOOT THEM IN COLOR. TO SHOOT THEM IN COLOR.

1860 01:19:52,187 01:19:54,689 WELL, COLOR TELEVISION DIDN'T EXIST THEN, WELL, COLOR TELEVISION DIDN'T EXIST THEN,

1861 01:19:54,689 01:19:57,692 BUT HE WAS SMART ENOUGH BUT HE WAS SMART ENOUGH

1862 01:19:57,692 01:20:00,195 TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT. TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT.

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BILL: One of the things that

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1864 01:20:01,696 01:20:03,698 MADEDAVY CROCKETT REALLY SUCCESSFUL MADEDAVY CROCKETT REALLY SUCCESSFUL

1865 01:20:04,199 01:20:05,200 AND REALLY MADE AND REALLY MADE

1866 01:20:05,200 01:20:06,701 THEDISNEYLANDSERIES STAND OUT THEDISNEYLANDSERIES STAND OUT

1867 01:20:06,701 01:20:09,204 WAS THAT IT WAS DONE ON LOCATION. WAS THAT IT WAS DONE ON LOCATION.

1868 01:20:09,204 01:20:11,706 WE BETTER SPLIT UP IF WE'RE GONNA COVER THE TOWN. WE BETTER SPLIT UP IF WE'RE GONNA COVER THE TOWN.

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VAN DYKE: About $300 million

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1870 01:20:14,209 01:20:16,211 IN CROCKETT MERCHANDISE WAS SOLD. IN CROCKETT MERCHANDISE WAS SOLD.

1871 01:20:16,211 01:20:20,215 AROUND $2 BILLION ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION. AROUND $2 BILLION ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.

1872 01:20:20,215 01:20:22,717 THAT ONE'S ABOUT THE RIGHT SIZE. THAT ONE'S ABOUT THE RIGHT SIZE.

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EBSEN: Walt entertained

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1874 01:20:23,718 01:20:26,221 GOVERNOR CLEMENT AND HIS WIFE, GOVERNOR CLEMENT AND HIS WIFE,

1875 01:20:26,721 01:20:27,722 AND THEN SUDDENLY HE OPENED UP AND THEN SUDDENLY HE OPENED UP

1876 01:20:28,223 01:20:30,225 IN THIS LITTLE COMMISSARY THAT WE HAD THERE. IN THIS LITTLE COMMISSARY THAT WE HAD THERE.

1877 01:20:30,225 01:20:32,727 HE SAID, "TELL ME, MR. DISNEY, HE SAID, "TELL ME, MR. DISNEY,

1878 01:20:32,727 01:20:35,230 "HAD YOU ANY IDEA "HAD YOU ANY IDEA

1879 01:20:35,230 01:20:38,233 "WHEN THIS MAGNIFICENT SHOWDAVY CROCKETT "WHEN THIS MAGNIFICENT SHOWDAVY CROCKETT

1880 01:20:38,733 01:20:40,735 "OPENED ALL OVER THE WORLD, "OPENED ALL OVER THE WORLD,

1881 01:20:40,735 01:20:44,239 "THAT IT WOULD BE THE SENSATIONAL SUCCESS "THAT IT WOULD BE THE SENSATIONAL SUCCESS

1882 01:20:44,739 01:20:46,741 THAT IT IS TODAY?" THAT IT IS TODAY?"

1883 01:20:47,242 01:20:50,245 AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WAS LOOKING AT US FUNNY, AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WAS LOOKING AT US FUNNY,

1884 01:20:50,245 01:20:52,747 AND WALT SAYS-- HE WINKED AT ME AND HE SAID, AND WALT SAYS-- HE WINKED AT ME AND HE SAID,

1885 01:20:53,248 01:20:55,250 "NO. WE'RE KIND OF DISAPPOINTED. "NO. WE'RE KIND OF DISAPPOINTED.

1886 01:20:55,250 01:20:57,252 WE THOUGHT IT'D BE REALLY BIG." WE THOUGHT IT'D BE REALLY BIG."

1887 01:20:57,752 01:20:58,753 [LAUGHS] [LAUGHS]

1888 01:20:58,753 01:20:58,753 [LAUGHS] [LAUGHS]

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VAN DYKE: Walt had a

magic touch with television.

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1890 01:21:03,258 01:21:04,759 THERE'S OUR BOAT RIDE. THERE'S OUR BOAT RIDE.

1891 01:21:04,759 01:21:07,262 GET A MOVE ON, MAHALIA. IT AIN'T MUCH FURTHER. GET A MOVE ON, MAHALIA. IT AIN'T MUCH FURTHER.

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VAN DYKE: He then set out to sketch

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1893 01:21:08,763 01:21:12,267 ANOTHER ORIGINAL IDEA-- A SHOW JUST FOR KIDS ANOTHER ORIGINAL IDEA-- A SHOW JUST FOR KIDS

1894 01:21:12,267 01:21:13,768 PRESENTED BY KIDS. PRESENTED BY KIDS.

1895 01:21:13,768 01:21:13,768 PRESENTED BY KIDS. PRESENTED BY KIDS.

1896 01:21:15,270 01:21:19,274 THE MICKEY MOUSE CLUB WAS A GROUNDBREAKING EFFORT, THE MICKEY MOUSE CLUB WAS A GROUNDBREAKING EFFORT,

1897 01:21:19,274 01:21:22,277 PROGRAMMING THAT RESPECTED CHILDREN'S INTELLIGENCE. PROGRAMMING THAT RESPECTED CHILDREN'S INTELLIGENCE.

1898 01:21:22,277 01:21:25,280 I'D SAY ABOUT 80% OF WHAT HE HAD FLESHED OUT I'D SAY ABOUT 80% OF WHAT HE HAD FLESHED OUT

1899 01:21:25,280 01:21:26,781 IN HIS OWN HANDWRITING FOR THIS SHOW IN HIS OWN HANDWRITING FOR THIS SHOW

1900 01:21:26,781 01:21:28,283 WAS WHAT WE SAW ON THE AIR. WAS WHAT WE SAW ON THE AIR.

1901 01:21:28,283 01:21:31,286 HE WANTED US TO CALL HIM AND REFER TO HIM HE WANTED US TO CALL HIM AND REFER TO HIM

1902 01:21:31,286 01:21:33,288 AS UNCLE WALT, AS UNCLE WALT,

1903 01:21:33,288 01:21:34,789 AND OF COURSE, WE ALL ADMIRED HIM AND OF COURSE, WE ALL ADMIRED HIM

1904 01:21:35,290 01:21:36,291 AND RESPECTED HIM SO MUCH AND RESPECTED HIM SO MUCH

1905 01:21:36,291 01:21:38,293 THAT WE CALLED HIM MR. DISNEY. THAT WE CALLED HIM MR. DISNEY.

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BURGESS: I understand that he would

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1907 01:21:39,794 01:21:42,297 TAKE HIS PRODUCERS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TAKE HIS PRODUCERS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD

1908 01:21:42,297 01:21:44,799 AND HE WOULD GO TO THE PLAYGROUNDS AND HE WOULD GO TO THE PLAYGROUNDS

1909 01:21:44,799 01:21:46,301 AND THE SCHOOL AREAS AND SAY, AND THE SCHOOL AREAS AND SAY,

1910 01:21:46,801 01:21:47,302 "SEE THOSE KIDS OVER THERE? "SEE THOSE KIDS OVER THERE?

1911 01:21:47,802 01:21:49,304 THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE A MOUSEKETEER." THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE A MOUSEKETEER."

1912 01:21:49,304 01:21:51,306 WELL, WHAT HE MEANT WAS THE KIDS NEXT DOOR. WELL, WHAT HE MEANT WAS THE KIDS NEXT DOOR.

1913 01:21:51,306 01:21:52,807 HE DIDN'T WANT ANY SLICK PROFESSIONALS. HE DIDN'T WANT ANY SLICK PROFESSIONALS.

1914 01:21:52,807 01:21:55,310 AS A CHILD, HE WAS VERY MUCH INTERESTED AS A CHILD, HE WAS VERY MUCH INTERESTED

1915 01:21:55,310 01:21:58,313 IN MAKING SURE THAT I WASN'T BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN MAKING SURE THAT I WASN'T BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF

1916 01:21:58,313 01:22:01,816 AND THAT I ALWAYS FELT THAT HE WAS CONCERNED AND THAT I ALWAYS FELT THAT HE WAS CONCERNED

1917 01:22:01,816 01:22:03,818 THAT I WAS HAVING A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW? THAT I WAS HAVING A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW?

1918 01:22:03,818 01:22:05,820 WALT HAD AN UNCANNY ABILITY WALT HAD AN UNCANNY ABILITY

1919 01:22:05,820 01:22:09,324 TO ANALYZE PEOPLE AND TO SEE TALENTS TO ANALYZE PEOPLE AND TO SEE TALENTS

1920 01:22:09,824 01:22:11,326 THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAD. THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAD.

1921 01:22:11,826 01:22:12,827 WALT CALLED OVER, AND HE SAYS, WALT CALLED OVER, AND HE SAYS,

1922 01:22:12,827 01:22:16,831 I WANT YOU TO DO THE SCRIPT FOR THE PIRATES' RIDE, I WANT YOU TO DO THE SCRIPT FOR THE PIRATES' RIDE,

1923 01:22:17,332 01:22:18,833 AND I HAD NEVER DONE ANY SCRIPTING BEFORE. AND I HAD NEVER DONE ANY SCRIPTING BEFORE.

1924 01:22:18,833 01:22:22,837 I HAD DONE STORYBOARDING IN THE ANIMATION END OF IT. I HAD DONE STORYBOARDING IN THE ANIMATION END OF IT.

1925 01:22:23,338 01:22:25,340 AND I THINK THAT WAS THE METHOD HE USED AND I THINK THAT WAS THE METHOD HE USED

1926 01:22:25,840 01:22:27,842 TO PICK PEOPLE, PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER, TO PICK PEOPLE, PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER,

1927 01:22:27,842 01:22:29,344 AND ONLY HE KNEW WHAT THE OUTCOME AND ONLY HE KNEW WHAT THE OUTCOME

1928 01:22:29,844 01:22:30,845 WAS GENERALLY GONNA BE. WAS GENERALLY GONNA BE.

1929 01:22:30,845 01:22:32,847 AND YOU THINK, "WHAT IS IT AND YOU THINK, "WHAT IS IT

1930 01:22:32,847 01:22:35,350 THAT MAKES THIS MAN SPECIAL?" THAT MAKES THIS MAN SPECIAL?"

1931 01:22:35,350 01:22:38,353 I MEAN, HE'S JUST AN ORDINARY MAN. I MEAN, HE'S JUST AN ORDINARY MAN.

1932 01:22:38,353 01:22:39,854 AND THEN SUDDENLY HE'D COME OUT AND THEN SUDDENLY HE'D COME OUT

1933 01:22:39,854 01:22:42,357 WITH THE MOST BRILLIANT SUGGESTION, WITH THE MOST BRILLIANT SUGGESTION,

1934 01:22:42,357 01:22:45,360 AND YOU THINK, "WHY HADN'T I THOUGHT OF THAT?" AND YOU THINK, "WHY HADN'T I THOUGHT OF THAT?"

1935 01:22:45,360 01:22:45,360 AND YOU THINK, "WHY HADN'T I THOUGHT OF THAT?" AND YOU THINK, "WHY HADN'T I THOUGHT OF THAT?"

1936 01:23:11,886 01:23:13,888 EVEN IN THE TWO-DIMENSIONAL WORLD EVEN IN THE TWO-DIMENSIONAL WORLD

1937 01:23:14,389 01:23:16,891 THAT WE DESIGNED FOR THE MOTION PICTURES, THAT WE DESIGNED FOR THE MOTION PICTURES,

1938 01:23:16,891 01:23:19,394 THERE'S THE IMPLICATION OF SPACE. THERE'S THE IMPLICATION OF SPACE.

1939 01:23:19,394 01:23:22,897 IN FACT, WE USED MANY OF THE TECHNIQUES WE HAD LEARNED IN FACT, WE USED MANY OF THE TECHNIQUES WE HAD LEARNED

1940 01:23:22,897 01:23:24,399 IN THE FILMS IN THE FILMS

1941 01:23:24,399 01:23:26,901 AND APPLIED THAT TO ACTUAL THIRD DIMENSION, AND APPLIED THAT TO ACTUAL THIRD DIMENSION,

1942 01:23:26,901 01:23:30,405 AND WHEN WE SET UP A KIND OF STORY IN OUR OWN MIND AND WHEN WE SET UP A KIND OF STORY IN OUR OWN MIND

1943 01:23:30,905 01:23:31,906 ABOUT WHAT IT WAS, ABOUT WHAT IT WAS,

1944 01:23:31,906 01:23:36,911 WE WOULD ESTABLISH AN IMAGINARY LONG SHOT WE WOULD ESTABLISH AN IMAGINARY LONG SHOT

1945 01:23:37,412 01:23:41,416 AS IF WE WERE TAKING IT WITH MOTION PICTURES. AS IF WE WERE TAKING IT WITH MOTION PICTURES.

1946 01:23:41,416 01:23:42,917 ONE OF THE LANDS IN THE PARK ONE OF THE LANDS IN THE PARK

1947 01:23:42,917 01:23:44,919 IS TRUE-LIFE ADVENTURE LAND-- IS TRUE-LIFE ADVENTURE LAND--

1948 01:23:44,919 01:23:46,421 WAS ITS ORIGINAL NAME, WAS ITS ORIGINAL NAME,

1949 01:23:46,421 01:23:48,423 BASED ON THE TRUE-LIFE ADVENTURE FILMS BASED ON THE TRUE-LIFE ADVENTURE FILMS

1950 01:23:48,423 01:23:49,424 THAT WALT WAS CREATING. THAT WALT WAS CREATING.

1951 01:23:49,424 01:23:52,927 AND THE JUNGLE CRUISE WAS THE BIG ATTRACTION, AND THE JUNGLE CRUISE WAS THE BIG ATTRACTION,

1952 01:23:53,428 01:23:55,430 WHERE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SEE REAL ANIMALS. WHERE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SEE REAL ANIMALS.

1953 01:23:55,430 01:23:56,931 WELL, THE BIG PROBLEM WELL, THE BIG PROBLEM

1954 01:23:56,931 01:23:57,932 IS THAT THEY TEND TO SLEEP ALL DAY, IS THAT THEY TEND TO SLEEP ALL DAY,

1955 01:23:58,433 01:24:00,435 SO THAT DURING THE DAY, NO ONE WOULD SEE THEM. SO THAT DURING THE DAY, NO ONE WOULD SEE THEM.

1956 01:24:00,435 01:24:01,436 THEY WOULD ONLY COME OUT AT NIGHT THEY WOULD ONLY COME OUT AT NIGHT

1957 01:24:01,436 01:24:02,937 WHEN IT HAD COOLED OFF. WHEN IT HAD COOLED OFF.

1958 01:24:02,937 01:24:05,940 SO IT WAS VERY QUICK THAT THEY REALIZED SO IT WAS VERY QUICK THAT THEY REALIZED

1959 01:24:05,940 01:24:08,443 THAT THEY NEEDED TO MAKE ARTIFICIAL ANIMALS. THAT THEY NEEDED TO MAKE ARTIFICIAL ANIMALS.

1960 01:24:08,443 01:24:10,945 AND THAT WOULD BE THE WAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE AND THAT WOULD BE THE WAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE

1961 01:24:10,945 01:24:12,447 HIPPOS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE TIME HIPPOS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE TIME

1962 01:24:12,447 01:24:14,449 AND A GORILLA IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE TIME. AND A GORILLA IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE TIME.

1963 01:24:14,449 01:24:14,449 AND A GORILLA IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE TIME. AND A GORILLA IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THE TIME.

1964 01:24:19,454 01:24:21,956 I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT, BELIEVED, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT, BELIEVED,

1965 01:24:21,956 01:24:24,959 THAT THE REASON WALT BUILT DISNEYLAND THAT THE REASON WALT BUILT DISNEYLAND

1966 01:24:24,959 01:24:27,462 WAS BECAUSE HE WANTED ONE. WAS BECAUSE HE WANTED ONE.

1967 01:24:27,462 01:24:29,964 HE WANTED THE BIGGEST TRAIN LAYOUT, HE WANTED THE BIGGEST TRAIN LAYOUT,

1968 01:24:29,964 01:24:32,467 HE WANTED A PLACE FOR ALL HIS TOYS. HE WANTED A PLACE FOR ALL HIS TOYS.

1969 01:24:32,467 01:24:34,469 WALT WOULD GO TO THE PARK EARLY IN THE MORNING WALT WOULD GO TO THE PARK EARLY IN THE MORNING

1970 01:24:34,469 01:24:35,970 BEFORE THE PARK OPENED, BEFORE THE PARK OPENED,

1971 01:24:35,970 01:24:37,972 AND HE'D GET IN THE FIRE TRUCK AND HE'D GET IN THE FIRE TRUCK

1972 01:24:37,972 01:24:40,475 AND DRIVE THE FIRE TRUCK AROUND DISNEYLAND. AND DRIVE THE FIRE TRUCK AROUND DISNEYLAND.

1973 01:24:40,975 01:24:43,478 AND PEOPLE WOULD THINK HE WAS CRAZY, AND PEOPLE WOULD THINK HE WAS CRAZY,

1974 01:24:43,478 01:24:45,980 BUT WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS PLAYING WITH HIS TOY. BUT WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS PLAYING WITH HIS TOY.

1975 01:24:45,980 01:24:45,980 BUT WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS PLAYING WITH HIS TOY. BUT WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS PLAYING WITH HIS TOY.

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NUNIS: I can remember him saying

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1977 01:24:48,983 01:24:50,985 THAT, YOU KNOW, "DICK, THIS PICTURE BUSINESS THAT, YOU KNOW, "DICK, THIS PICTURE BUSINESS

1978 01:24:50,985 01:24:52,987 IS TOUGH BECAUSE WHEN YOU FINISH A MOVIE IS TOUGH BECAUSE WHEN YOU FINISH A MOVIE

1979 01:24:52,987 01:24:55,490 AND YOU PUT IT IN THE CAN, IT'S FINISHED, AND YOU PUT IT IN THE CAN, IT'S FINISHED,

1980 01:24:55,490 01:24:57,492 BUT DISNEYLAND WILL NEVER BE FINISHED. BUT DISNEYLAND WILL NEVER BE FINISHED.

1981 01:24:57,492 01:24:59,494 WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE IT BETTER." WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE IT BETTER."

1982 01:24:59,994 01:24:59,994 WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE IT BETTER." WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE IT BETTER."

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VAN DYKE: The studio witnessed

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1984 01:25:03,498 01:25:06,000 A MASSIVE EXPANSION IN THE 1950s. A MASSIVE EXPANSION IN THE 1950s.

1985 01:25:06,501 01:25:10,004 GROSS REVENUES ZOOMED FROM $6 MILLION IN 1950 GROSS REVENUES ZOOMED FROM $6 MILLION IN 1950

1986 01:25:10,505 01:25:13,508 TO 70 MILLION NEAR THE END OF THE DECADE. TO 70 MILLION NEAR THE END OF THE DECADE.

1987 01:25:13,508 01:25:15,510 THROUGH IT ALL, STAFFERS WERE STUNNED THROUGH IT ALL, STAFFERS WERE STUNNED

1988 01:25:15,510 01:25:18,513 THAT WALT WAS ABLE TO NURTURE IDEAS FOR YEARS, THAT WALT WAS ABLE TO NURTURE IDEAS FOR YEARS,

1989 01:25:18,513 01:25:21,015 EVEN DECADES. EVEN DECADES.

1990 01:25:21,015 01:25:23,017 A CARTOON HE HAD DRAWN IN HIGH SCHOOL A CARTOON HE HAD DRAWN IN HIGH SCHOOL

1991 01:25:23,017 01:25:25,520 INSPIRED A SCENE INPETER PAN. INSPIRED A SCENE INPETER PAN.

1992 01:25:25,520 01:25:27,021 THE LITTLE CHOW DOG THE LITTLE CHOW DOG

1993 01:25:27,021 01:25:29,524 THAT WALT HAD GIVEN TO LILLY IN A HATBOX THAT WALT HAD GIVEN TO LILLY IN A HATBOX

1994 01:25:29,524 01:25:33,027 GREW INTO A SEQUENCE INLADY AND THE TRAMP. GREW INTO A SEQUENCE INLADY AND THE TRAMP.

1995 01:25:33,027 01:25:34,596 HE NEVER FORGOT ANYTHING. HE NEVER FORGOT ANYTHING.

1996 01:25:35,096 01:25:37,098 YOU HAD TO BE CAREFUL WITH SOMETHING YOU SAID YOU HAD TO BE CAREFUL WITH SOMETHING YOU SAID

1997 01:25:37,098 01:25:38,099 3 YEARS AGO. 3 YEARS AGO.

1998 01:25:38,600 01:25:41,603 HE MIGHT BRING IT OUT 3 YEARS LATER. HE MIGHT BRING IT OUT 3 YEARS LATER.

1999 01:25:42,103 01:25:42,103 HE MIGHT BRING IT OUT 3 YEARS LATER. HE MIGHT BRING IT OUT 3 YEARS LATER.

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VAN DYKE: Walt's first big

live-action film production

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2001 01:25:47,108 01:25:48,610 IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE UNITED STATES

2002 01:25:48,610 01:25:51,112 WAS20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA. WAS20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA.

2003 01:25:51,112 01:25:53,615 HE MADE A SURPRISING CHOICE FOR DIRECTOR-- HE MADE A SURPRISING CHOICE FOR DIRECTOR--

2004 01:25:53,615 01:25:56,618 RICHARD FLEISCHER, THE SON OF MAX FLEISCHER, RICHARD FLEISCHER, THE SON OF MAX FLEISCHER,

2005 01:25:56,618 01:25:59,120 THE CREATOR OF BETTY BOOP AND POPEYE THE CREATOR OF BETTY BOOP AND POPEYE

2006 01:25:59,120 01:26:01,122 AND AN EARLY COMPETITOR OF WALT'S. AND AN EARLY COMPETITOR OF WALT'S.

2007 01:26:01,623 01:26:01,623 AND AN EARLY COMPETITOR OF WALT'S. AND AN EARLY COMPETITOR OF WALT'S.

2008 01:26:03,625 01:26:06,628 AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT HE'D WANT ME. AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT HE'D WANT ME.

2009 01:26:06,628 01:26:08,129 I WAS A YOUNG DIRECTOR, I WAS A YOUNG DIRECTOR,

2010 01:26:08,129 01:26:11,633 HAD NOT MADE A REALLY BIG, IMPORTANT PICTURE HAD NOT MADE A REALLY BIG, IMPORTANT PICTURE

2011 01:26:11,633 01:26:13,134 UP TO THAT TIME. UP TO THAT TIME.

2012 01:26:13,134 01:26:14,636 IT WAS DONE IN CINEMASCOPE, IT WAS DONE IN CINEMASCOPE,

2013 01:26:14,636 01:26:17,138 WHICH WAS STILL NEW AND EXCITING TO AUDIENCES THEN, WHICH WAS STILL NEW AND EXCITING TO AUDIENCES THEN,

2014 01:26:17,138 01:26:18,139 AND IN TECHNICOLOR, AND IN TECHNICOLOR,

2015 01:26:18,139 01:26:22,143 AND HE HIRED A-LIST MOVIE STARS TO BE IN IT-- AND HE HIRED A-LIST MOVIE STARS TO BE IN IT--

2016 01:26:22,143 01:26:25,647 KIRK DOUGLAS, JAMES MASON, PETER LORRE. KIRK DOUGLAS, JAMES MASON, PETER LORRE.

2017 01:26:25,647 01:26:28,149 THESE WERE ALL PROMINENT NAMES. THESE WERE ALL PROMINENT NAMES.

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FLEISCHER: The scene was written

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2019 01:26:30,151 01:26:34,155 "AT SUNSET ON A FLAT, CALM SEA." "AT SUNSET ON A FLAT, CALM SEA."

2020 01:26:34,155 01:26:36,658 AND THERE WAS NO EXCITEMENT IN IT. AND THERE WAS NO EXCITEMENT IN IT.

2021 01:26:36,658 01:26:39,160 ONE DAY AS I WAS SHOOTING, ONE DAY AS I WAS SHOOTING,

2022 01:26:39,160 01:26:41,162 I FELT A TAP ON MY SHOULDER, I FELT A TAP ON MY SHOULDER,

2023 01:26:41,162 01:26:43,164 AND IT WAS WALT. AND IT WAS WALT.

2024 01:26:43,164 01:26:45,166 HE SAID, "WHAT ARE YOU SHOOTING HERE, HE SAID, "WHAT ARE YOU SHOOTING HERE,

2025 01:26:45,166 01:26:46,167 A KEYSTONE COMEDY?" A KEYSTONE COMEDY?"

2026 01:26:46,668 01:26:48,169 I SAID, "NO, WALT." I SAID, "NO, WALT."

2027 01:26:48,169 01:26:51,172 AND I EXPLAINED WHAT THE SITUATION WAS, AND I EXPLAINED WHAT THE SITUATION WAS,

2028 01:26:51,673 01:26:53,675 AND HE UNDERSTOOD IT IMMEDIATELY. AND HE UNDERSTOOD IT IMMEDIATELY.

2029 01:26:53,675 01:26:56,678 EARL HAD SEEN THE FOOTAGE AS WELL. EARL HAD SEEN THE FOOTAGE AS WELL.

2030 01:26:57,178 01:26:59,180 HE'D RUN IT WITH WALT. HE'D RUN IT WITH WALT.

2031 01:26:59,180 01:27:03,184 HE SAID, "THIS SHOULD BE A STORM SEQUENCE. HE SAID, "THIS SHOULD BE A STORM SEQUENCE.

2032 01:27:03,184 01:27:05,186 AT NIGHT WITH LIGHTNING AND THUNDER AT NIGHT WITH LIGHTNING AND THUNDER

2033 01:27:05,687 01:27:07,188 AND WIND AND WAVES. AND WIND AND WAVES.

2034 01:27:07,188 01:27:10,191 AND LOTS OF EXCITEMENT SO YOU'RE FIGHTING AND LOTS OF EXCITEMENT SO YOU'RE FIGHTING

2035 01:27:10,191 01:27:12,193 NOT ONLY THE SQUID, NOT ONLY THE SQUID,

2036 01:27:12,193 01:27:14,696 BUT YOU'RE FIGHTING NATURE ITSELF. BUT YOU'RE FIGHTING NATURE ITSELF.

2037 01:27:14,696 01:27:17,699 AND BLESS HIS HEART, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID. AND BLESS HIS HEART, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

2038 01:27:18,199 01:27:18,199 AND BLESS HIS HEART, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID. AND BLESS HIS HEART, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

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VAN DYKE: In the years that followed,

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2040 01:27:25,206 01:27:26,708 WALT'S FILMS BECAME SYNONYMOUS WALT'S FILMS BECAME SYNONYMOUS

2041 01:27:27,208 01:27:29,210 WITH FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT... WITH FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT...

2042 01:27:29,210 01:27:31,713 SOMETHING MUST HAVE GONE WRONG WITH THE FUSE. SOMETHING MUST HAVE GONE WRONG WITH THE FUSE.

2043 01:27:31,713 01:27:32,714 WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING BACK... WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING BACK...

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VAN DYKE: Including

Swiss Family Robinson

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2045 01:27:35,216 01:27:36,217 DIRECTED BY KEN ANNAKIN. DIRECTED BY KEN ANNAKIN.

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ANNAKIN: When the dogs attack,

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2047 01:27:37,719 01:27:39,220 HE INSISTED THAT THE DOGS HE INSISTED THAT THE DOGS

2048 01:27:39,721 01:27:41,723 ACTUALLY HIT THE TIGER. ACTUALLY HIT THE TIGER.

2049 01:27:41,723 01:27:43,224 TOUCHED HIM. TOUCHED HIM.

2050 01:27:43,224 01:27:45,226 AND I JUST SAID, "WALT, AND I JUST SAID, "WALT,

2051 01:27:45,727 01:27:47,228 "I'VE BEEN SHOOTING IN SOUTH AFRICA, "I'VE BEEN SHOOTING IN SOUTH AFRICA,

2052 01:27:47,228 01:27:48,229 "AND I HAD A LION, "AND I HAD A LION,

2053 01:27:48,730 01:27:52,734 "AND A TIGER IS MUCH LESS TRAINABLE "AND A TIGER IS MUCH LESS TRAINABLE

2054 01:27:52,734 01:27:54,736 THAN A LION," THAN A LION,"

2055 01:27:54,736 01:27:56,738 AND WALT SUDDENLY SAID, AND WALT SUDDENLY SAID,

2056 01:27:56,738 01:27:59,240 "KEN'S AFRAID OF THE TIGER." "KEN'S AFRAID OF THE TIGER."

2057 01:27:59,240 01:28:02,243 AND THAT THING WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE TIME. AND THAT THING WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE TIME.

2058 01:28:02,243 01:28:03,244 EVERY TIME WE CAME TO THE TIGER, EVERY TIME WE CAME TO THE TIGER,

2059 01:28:03,745 01:28:04,746 HE SAID, "WELL, OF COURSE, HE SAID, "WELL, OF COURSE,

2060 01:28:05,246 01:28:06,748 "WE KNOW KEN'S AFRAID OF THE TIGER, "WE KNOW KEN'S AFRAID OF THE TIGER,

2061 01:28:06,748 01:28:08,249 "BUT DO YOU THINK YOU CAN POSSIBLY "BUT DO YOU THINK YOU CAN POSSIBLY

2062 01:28:08,249 01:28:10,251 SHOOT IT THIS WAY?" SHOOT IT THIS WAY?"

2063 01:28:10,251 01:28:10,251 SHOOT IT THIS WAY?" SHOOT IT THIS WAY?"

2064 01:28:11,753 01:28:13,755 YOU HAD SOME MORE DIALOGUE AFTER THAT. YOU HAD SOME MORE DIALOGUE AFTER THAT.

2065 01:28:13,755 01:28:16,257 [LAUGHS] [LAUGHS]

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MAN: I believe this is...

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VAN DYKE: By the mid 2000s,

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2068 01:28:18,760 01:28:20,261 WALT HAD BECOME FAMILIAR WALT HAD BECOME FAMILIAR

2069 01:28:20,261 01:28:23,765 TO MILLIONS OF TELEVISION VIEWERS. TO MILLIONS OF TELEVISION VIEWERS.

2070 01:28:23,765 01:28:25,266 WHILE AT USC, WHILE AT USC,

2071 01:28:25,266 01:28:27,769 DIANE MET A TALL, HANDSOME FOOTBALL PLAYER DIANE MET A TALL, HANDSOME FOOTBALL PLAYER

2072 01:28:27,769 01:28:29,771 NAMED RON MILLER. NAMED RON MILLER.

2073 01:28:29,771 01:28:31,272 OH, YEAH. WHENEVER I FIRST ARRIVED, OH, YEAH. WHENEVER I FIRST ARRIVED,

2074 01:28:31,272 01:28:33,274 THE FIRST THING ON MY MIND THE FIRST THING ON MY MIND

2075 01:28:33,775 01:28:35,276 WAS GETTING DIANE AND GETTING OUT OF THERE, WAS GETTING DIANE AND GETTING OUT OF THERE,

2076 01:28:35,276 01:28:37,779 BECAUSE YOU COULD TELL THAT BOTH OF THEM, BECAUSE YOU COULD TELL THAT BOTH OF THEM,

2077 01:28:37,779 01:28:39,280 LILLY AS WELL, LILLY AS WELL,

2078 01:28:39,280 01:28:42,283 THEY WERE SIZING ME UP. THEY WERE SIZING ME UP.

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VAN DYKE: On May 9th, 2004,

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2080 01:28:44,786 01:28:47,789 DIANE AND RON WERE MARRIED IN A SMALL CEREMONY DIANE AND RON WERE MARRIED IN A SMALL CEREMONY

2081 01:28:47,789 01:28:50,291 AT THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN SANTA BARBARA. AT THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN SANTA BARBARA.

2082 01:28:50,291 01:28:50,291 AT THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN SANTA BARBARA. AT THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN SANTA BARBARA.

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DIANE: When we were going

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2084 01:28:53,294 01:28:53,795 DOWN THE AISLE TOGETHER-- DOWN THE AISLE TOGETHER--

2085 01:28:54,295 01:28:55,797 IT WAS A VERY SMALL WEDDING BY DESIGN, IT WAS A VERY SMALL WEDDING BY DESIGN,

2086 01:28:55,797 01:28:59,300 AND MY SISTER WAS MY ONLY ATTENDANT-- AND MY SISTER WAS MY ONLY ATTENDANT--

2087 01:28:59,300 01:29:01,302 HE BRINGS ME UP TO THE ALTAR, HE BRINGS ME UP TO THE ALTAR,

2088 01:29:01,302 01:29:02,804 AND RON IS THERE, AND RON IS THERE,

2089 01:29:02,804 01:29:06,808 AND I FELT A SNIFFLE. AND I FELT A SNIFFLE.

2090 01:29:06,808 01:29:08,309 I HEARD A SNIFFLE, AND I TURNED, I HEARD A SNIFFLE, AND I TURNED,

2091 01:29:08,309 01:29:12,313 AND HE LOOKED AT ME LIKE THAT AND HE LOOKED AT ME LIKE THAT

2092 01:29:12,313 01:29:14,315 AND SQUEEZED MY HAND, AND SQUEEZED MY HAND,

2093 01:29:14,816 01:29:18,319 AND IT WAS HIS MOMENT. AND IT WAS HIS MOMENT.

2094 01:29:18,319 01:29:21,322 IT WAS SWEET. YEAH. IT WAS SWEET. YEAH.

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VAN DYKE: Ron left college

and entered the army.

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2096 01:29:25,326 01:29:28,830 DIANE LIVED CLOSE NEARBY IN PACIFIC GROVE. DIANE LIVED CLOSE NEARBY IN PACIFIC GROVE.

2097 01:29:28,830 01:29:30,331 WHEN THE FIRST BABY ARRIVED, WHEN THE FIRST BABY ARRIVED,

2098 01:29:30,832 01:29:34,335 WALT WAS OVERJOYED TO HAVE A GRANDSON. WALT WAS OVERJOYED TO HAVE A GRANDSON.

2099 01:29:34,335 01:29:34,335 WALT WAS OVERJOYED TO HAVE A GRANDSON. WALT WAS OVERJOYED TO HAVE A GRANDSON.

2100 01:29:40,341 01:29:42,343 IN JULY OF 1955, IN JULY OF 1955,

2101 01:29:42,343 01:29:45,346 WALT AND LILLY CELEBRATED THEIR 30th ANNIVERSARY WALT AND LILLY CELEBRATED THEIR 30th ANNIVERSARY

2102 01:29:45,847 01:29:48,349 AT THE GOLDEN HORSESHOE SALOON AT DISNEYLAND. AT THE GOLDEN HORSESHOE SALOON AT DISNEYLAND.

2103 01:29:48,349 01:29:51,352 JUST DAYS BEFORE THE GRAND OPENING, JUST DAYS BEFORE THE GRAND OPENING,

2104 01:29:51,352 01:29:52,854 WALT WAS LIKE A KID WALT WAS LIKE A KID

2105 01:29:52,854 01:29:55,857 AT THE BEST BIRTHDAY PARTY IN THE WORLD. AT THE BEST BIRTHDAY PARTY IN THE WORLD.

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DIANE: At that point,

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2107 01:29:57,358 01:30:00,361 EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM NOTICES THAT MY DAD EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM NOTICES THAT MY DAD

2108 01:30:00,361 01:30:02,363 SOMEHOW WAS UP IN A BALCONY SOMEHOW WAS UP IN A BALCONY

2109 01:30:02,363 01:30:03,364 ABOVE THE STAGE, ABOVE THE STAGE,

2110 01:30:03,364 01:30:05,366 AND THEN HE STARTED TO CLIMB AND THEN HE STARTED TO CLIMB

2111 01:30:05,366 01:30:06,868 OVER THE BALCONY, OVER THE BALCONY,

2112 01:30:06,868 01:30:08,870 AND HE CLIMBED DOWN TO THE STAGE. AND HE CLIMBED DOWN TO THE STAGE.

2113 01:30:09,370 01:30:10,872 AND THEN HE'S STANDING ON THE STAGE, AND THEN HE'S STANDING ON THE STAGE,

2114 01:30:10,872 01:30:13,374 JUST BEAMING AT PEOPLE. JUST BEAMING AT PEOPLE.

2115 01:30:13,374 01:30:15,877 SO, WE HEADED HOME SHORTLY AFTER THAT. SO, WE HEADED HOME SHORTLY AFTER THAT.

2116 01:30:16,377 01:30:17,879 DAD WAS VERY QUIET BACK THERE, DAD WAS VERY QUIET BACK THERE,

2117 01:30:17,879 01:30:19,881 AND I LOOKED BACK, AND I LOOKED BACK,

2118 01:30:19,881 01:30:23,384 AND HE'S ASLEEP WITH A ROLL OF PLANS AND HE'S ASLEEP WITH A ROLL OF PLANS

2119 01:30:23,384 01:30:24,385 RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW?

2120 01:30:24,385 01:30:26,387 LIKE A LITTLE KID, A LITTLE BOY. LIKE A LITTLE KID, A LITTLE BOY.

2121 01:30:26,387 01:30:28,389 THE PEOPLE AND EYES AROUND THE WORLD THE PEOPLE AND EYES AROUND THE WORLD

2122 01:30:28,389 01:30:30,892 ARE FOCUSED ON THESE 160 ACRES ARE FOCUSED ON THESE 160 ACRES

2123 01:30:31,392 01:30:32,894 HERE IN ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA. HERE IN ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA.

2124 01:30:32,894 01:30:34,896 THIS AFTERNOON, DISNEYLAND, THIS AFTERNOON, DISNEYLAND,

2125 01:30:34,896 01:30:36,898 THE WORLD'S MOST FABULOUS KINGDOM, THE WORLD'S MOST FABULOUS KINGDOM,

2126 01:30:37,398 01:30:38,399 WILL BE UNVEILED BEFORE WILL BE UNVEILED BEFORE

2127 01:30:38,399 01:30:39,901 AN INVITATIONAL WORLD PREMIERE AN INVITATIONAL WORLD PREMIERE

2128 01:30:40,401 01:30:41,903 AND YOU, OUR GUESTS. AND YOU, OUR GUESTS.

2129 01:30:41,903 01:30:43,905 ART LINKLETTER WILL BE YOUR HOST, ART LINKLETTER WILL BE YOUR HOST,

2130 01:30:43,905 01:30:46,407 AND WITH ABC CREWS AND CAMERAS ON THE SPOT, AND WITH ABC CREWS AND CAMERAS ON THE SPOT,

2131 01:30:46,407 01:30:48,910 WILL GUIDE YOU THROUGH THIS TRULY MAGIC LAND. WILL GUIDE YOU THROUGH THIS TRULY MAGIC LAND.

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LINKLETTER: A great mishmash

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2133 01:30:50,912 01:30:53,915 OF LAST MINUTE THINGS THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE-- OF LAST MINUTE THINGS THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE--

2134 01:30:53,915 01:30:56,918 THE CEMENT WASN'T HARDENED IN SOME PLACES, THE CEMENT WASN'T HARDENED IN SOME PLACES,

2135 01:30:56,918 01:30:59,420 PILES OF LUMBER WERE HERE AND THERE. PILES OF LUMBER WERE HERE AND THERE.

2136 01:30:59,420 01:31:02,423 WELL, THIS JOB IN THE NEXT HOUR AND A HALF'S WELL, THIS JOB IN THE NEXT HOUR AND A HALF'S

2137 01:31:02,423 01:31:03,925 GONNA BE A DELIGHT. I FEEL LIKE... GONNA BE A DELIGHT. I FEEL LIKE...

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LINKLETTER: He had asked me

to emcee the opening

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2139 01:31:05,927 01:31:07,929 AND ASKED ME TO PICK A COUPLE OF MY FRIENDS AND ASKED ME TO PICK A COUPLE OF MY FRIENDS

2140 01:31:07,929 01:31:08,930 TO WORK WITH HIM, TO WORK WITH HIM,

2141 01:31:09,430 01:31:11,933 AND I ASKED MY DEAR FRIEND RONALD REAGAN AND I ASKED MY DEAR FRIEND RONALD REAGAN

2142 01:31:11,933 01:31:14,435 THAT I'VE TRAVELED WITH ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT I'VE TRAVELED WITH ALL OVER THE WORLD

2143 01:31:14,435 01:31:16,437 TO BE WITH ME AND WALT. TO BE WITH ME AND WALT.

2144 01:31:16,437 01:31:18,940 HA! ISN'T THIS A RIOT TODAY? HA! ISN'T THIS A RIOT TODAY?

2145 01:31:19,440 01:31:20,441 OH, IT CERTAINLY IS. OH, IT CERTAINLY IS.

2146 01:31:20,441 01:31:23,945 ...READY FOR THE OFFICIAL OPENING CEREMONIES. ...READY FOR THE OFFICIAL OPENING CEREMONIES.

2147 01:31:23,945 01:31:25,947 [BAND PLAYING MUSIC] [BAND PLAYING MUSIC]

2148 01:31:25,947 01:31:26,948 [MUSIC STOPS] [MUSIC STOPS]

2149 01:31:27,448 01:31:29,951 ALL ACTIVITY ON MAIN STREET HAS CEASED. ALL ACTIVITY ON MAIN STREET HAS CEASED.

2150 01:31:29,951 01:31:33,454 AND NOW WALT DISNEY WILL STEP FORWARD AND NOW WALT DISNEY WILL STEP FORWARD

2151 01:31:33,454 01:31:35,957 TO READ THE DEDICATION OF DISNEYLAND. TO READ THE DEDICATION OF DISNEYLAND.

2152 01:31:35,957 01:31:36,958 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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DIANE: You could see the

lump in his throat,

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2154 01:31:39,460 01:31:42,463 AND HE HAD A TEAR IN HIS EYE. AND HE HAD A TEAR IN HIS EYE.

2155 01:31:42,964 01:31:45,466 TO ALL WHO COME TO THIS HAPPY PLACE, TO ALL WHO COME TO THIS HAPPY PLACE,

2156 01:31:45,466 01:31:47,468 WELCOME. WELCOME.

2157 01:31:47,468 01:31:49,470 DISNEYLAND IS YOUR LAND. DISNEYLAND IS YOUR LAND.

2158 01:31:49,470 01:31:52,974 HERE AGE RELIVES FOND MEMORIES OF THE PAST, HERE AGE RELIVES FOND MEMORIES OF THE PAST,

2159 01:31:52,974 01:31:54,475 AND HERE YOUTH MAY SAVOR AND HERE YOUTH MAY SAVOR

2160 01:31:54,475 01:31:56,978 THE CHALLENGE AND PROMISE OF THE FUTURE. THE CHALLENGE AND PROMISE OF THE FUTURE.

2161 01:31:56,978 01:31:59,480 DISNEYLAND IS DEDICATED TO THE IDEALS, DISNEYLAND IS DEDICATED TO THE IDEALS,

2162 01:31:59,480 01:32:01,482 THE DREAMS, AND THE HARD FACTS THE DREAMS, AND THE HARD FACTS

2163 01:32:01,983 01:32:03,484 THAT HAVE CREATED AMERICA THAT HAVE CREATED AMERICA

2164 01:32:03,484 01:32:05,987 WITH THE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE A SOURCE OF JOY WITH THE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE A SOURCE OF JOY

2165 01:32:05,987 01:32:08,990 AND INSPIRATION TO ALL THE WORLD. AND INSPIRATION TO ALL THE WORLD.

2166 01:32:09,490 01:32:09,490 AND INSPIRATION TO ALL THE WORLD. AND INSPIRATION TO ALL THE WORLD.

2167 01:32:12,493 01:32:12,994 THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

2168 01:32:13,494 01:32:14,495 [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE]

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LINKLETTER:

And then the show opened

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2170 01:32:17,498 01:32:20,001 AND HISTORY WAS MADE, AND HISTORY WAS MADE,

2171 01:32:20,001 01:32:23,004 ALTHOUGH THE FIRST REVIEWS WERE NOT TOO KIND ALTHOUGH THE FIRST REVIEWS WERE NOT TOO KIND

2172 01:32:23,004 01:32:25,006 BECAUSE IT WAS A HOT DAY, BECAUSE IT WAS A HOT DAY,

2173 01:32:25,006 01:32:27,008 THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISORGANIZATION. THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISORGANIZATION.

2174 01:32:27,508 01:32:29,010 LET'S GO INTO FANTASYLAND AND HAVE SOME FUN. LET'S GO INTO FANTASYLAND AND HAVE SOME FUN.

2175 01:32:29,510 01:32:31,012 GOOD-BYE, FOLKS. GOOD-BYE, FOLKS.

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VAN DYKE: True to his word,

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2177 01:32:33,014 01:32:36,517 WALT KEPT ADDING TO HIS PARK. WALT KEPT ADDING TO HIS PARK.

2178 01:32:36,517 01:32:38,519 [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

2179 01:32:38,519 01:32:38,519 [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

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VAN DYKE: Walt continued to wait

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2181 01:33:04,545 01:33:07,048 FOR A GRANDSON TO BEAR HIS NAME. FOR A GRANDSON TO BEAR HIS NAME.

2182 01:33:07,048 01:33:10,051 AFTER CHRISTOPHER, DIANE HAD 3 DAUGHTERS. AFTER CHRISTOPHER, DIANE HAD 3 DAUGHTERS.

2183 01:33:10,551 01:33:13,554 FINALLY IN NOVEMBER OF 1961, FINALLY IN NOVEMBER OF 1961,

2184 01:33:13,554 01:33:16,557 ALONG CAME ANOTHER BOY. ALONG CAME ANOTHER BOY.

2185 01:33:16,557 01:33:20,061 I REMEMBER WHEN WALT CAME INTO MY STUDIO I REMEMBER WHEN WALT CAME INTO MY STUDIO

2186 01:33:20,061 01:33:23,064 AND HE HAD A BOX OF CIGARS AND HE WAS PASSING THEM OUT, AND HE HAD A BOX OF CIGARS AND HE WAS PASSING THEM OUT,

2187 01:33:23,064 01:33:26,567 AND ON THOSE CIGARS IT SAID, "WALTER ELIAS DISNEY MILLER," AND ON THOSE CIGARS IT SAID, "WALTER ELIAS DISNEY MILLER,"

2188 01:33:27,068 01:33:30,071 AND HE WAS BEAMING AND HE WAS VERY PROUD OF THAT. AND HE WAS BEAMING AND HE WAS VERY PROUD OF THAT.

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VAN DYKE: Sharon had been dating

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2190 01:33:32,573 01:33:34,575 AN ARCHITECT NAMED ROBERT BROWN. AN ARCHITECT NAMED ROBERT BROWN.

2191 01:33:34,575 01:33:37,078 THEY WERE MARRIED ON MAY 10, 1959, THEY WERE MARRIED ON MAY 10, 1959,

2192 01:33:37,078 01:33:40,081 IN PACIFIC PALISADES. IN PACIFIC PALISADES.

2193 01:33:40,081 01:33:43,584 FOR A LONG TIME, BOB RESISTED WALT'S OFFERS FOR A LONG TIME, BOB RESISTED WALT'S OFFERS

2194 01:33:43,584 01:33:46,587 TO JOIN THE STUDIO, BUT IN 1963, HE RELENTED TO JOIN THE STUDIO, BUT IN 1963, HE RELENTED

2195 01:33:47,088 01:33:50,591 AND BECAME A KEY PLANNER AT WED. AND BECAME A KEY PLANNER AT WED.

2196 01:33:50,591 01:33:54,095 WELL, A BEAUTIFUL TOMORROW JUST A DREAM AWAY. WELL, A BEAUTIFUL TOMORROW JUST A DREAM AWAY.

2197 01:33:54,095 01:33:56,097 THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING PLACES. THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING PLACES.

2198 01:33:56,597 01:33:57,598 THERE'S PROGRESS AHEAD. THERE'S PROGRESS AHEAD.

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SKLAR: The world's fair

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2200 01:33:59,100 01:34:03,104 WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR WALT, WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR WALT,

2201 01:34:03,604 01:34:05,106 AND HE SAW SOMETHING AND HE SAW SOMETHING

2202 01:34:05,606 01:34:08,109 THAT NONE OF US REALIZED AT THE TIME. THAT NONE OF US REALIZED AT THE TIME.

2203 01:34:08,109 01:34:11,612 HE ALREADY WAS PLANNING TO DO SOMETHING HE ALREADY WAS PLANNING TO DO SOMETHING

2204 01:34:11,612 01:34:13,114 IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY, IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY,

2205 01:34:13,114 01:34:16,117 SO HE WAS TAKING HIS ENTERTAINMENT SO HE WAS TAKING HIS ENTERTAINMENT

2206 01:34:16,117 01:34:19,120 DIRECTLY TO WHERE ALL THE SOPHISTICATES, DIRECTLY TO WHERE ALL THE SOPHISTICATES,

2207 01:34:19,120 01:34:22,123 WHO SOMETIMES CRITICIZED DISNEY ENTERTAINMENT-- WHO SOMETIMES CRITICIZED DISNEY ENTERTAINMENT--

2208 01:34:22,123 01:34:24,625 RIGHT IN THEIR HOMELAND, RIGHT IN NEW YORK. RIGHT IN THEIR HOMELAND, RIGHT IN NEW YORK.

2209 01:34:24,625 01:34:27,128 THERE WERE 4 OF US IN OUR SHOP ORIGINALLY, THERE WERE 4 OF US IN OUR SHOP ORIGINALLY,

2210 01:34:27,128 01:34:28,629 WHICH BECAME, LIKE, 30, WHICH BECAME, LIKE, 30,

2211 01:34:28,629 01:34:30,131 WHICH BECAME DOUBLE, WHICH BECAME DOUBLE,

2212 01:34:30,131 01:34:32,133 AND THEN 120, MAYBE. AND THEN 120, MAYBE.

2213 01:34:32,133 01:34:33,134 I MEAN, THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY I MEAN, THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY

2214 01:34:33,134 01:34:35,136 WHEN WE DID THE WORLD'S FAIR. WHEN WE DID THE WORLD'S FAIR.

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VAN DYKE:

Walt foresaw that money spent

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2216 01:34:38,139 01:34:39,140 ON BIG CORPORATE PAVILIONS ON BIG CORPORATE PAVILIONS

2217 01:34:39,140 01:34:40,641 WOULD ENABLE WED TO DEVELOP WOULD ENABLE WED TO DEVELOP

2218 01:34:40,641 01:34:44,145 A RANGE OF NEW IDEAS AND TECHNOLOGIES. A RANGE OF NEW IDEAS AND TECHNOLOGIES.

2219 01:34:44,145 01:34:47,148 YOU SEE, OUR WHOLE 40-SOME ODD YEARS HERE YOU SEE, OUR WHOLE 40-SOME ODD YEARS HERE

2220 01:34:47,148 01:34:49,650 HAS BEEN IN THE WORLD OF MAKING THINGS MOVE, HAS BEEN IN THE WORLD OF MAKING THINGS MOVE,

2221 01:34:49,650 01:34:51,652 INANIMATE THINGS MOVE. INANIMATE THINGS MOVE.

2222 01:34:51,652 01:34:55,156 NOW WE'RE MAKING THESE HUMAN FIGURES, NOW WE'RE MAKING THESE HUMAN FIGURES,

2223 01:34:55,156 01:34:57,658 DIMENSIONAL HUMAN FIGURES MOVE, DIMENSIONAL HUMAN FIGURES MOVE,

2224 01:34:57,658 01:35:00,661 MAKE ANIMALS MOVE, MAKE ANYTHING MOVE, MAKE ANIMALS MOVE, MAKE ANYTHING MOVE,

2225 01:35:00,661 01:35:03,164 THROUGH THE USE OF ELECTRONICS. THROUGH THE USE OF ELECTRONICS.

2226 01:35:03,164 01:35:04,899 BEING THE PERFECTIONIST HE WAS, BEING THE PERFECTIONIST HE WAS,

2227 01:35:04,899 01:35:08,402 THE MINOR ACTIONS OF THE ANIMALS THE MINOR ACTIONS OF THE ANIMALS

2228 01:35:08,903 01:35:10,404 JUST WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH, JUST WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH,

2229 01:35:10,404 01:35:11,906 BUT TO DEVELOP A SKULL BUT TO DEVELOP A SKULL

2230 01:35:11,906 01:35:14,909 TO MAKE IT AS HUMAN-LIKE AS POSSIBLE. TO MAKE IT AS HUMAN-LIKE AS POSSIBLE.

2231 01:35:14,909 01:35:16,410 AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN LINCOLN AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN LINCOLN

2232 01:35:16,410 01:35:17,912 WAS FIRST IN THE SHOW, WAS FIRST IN THE SHOW,

2233 01:35:17,912 01:35:19,914 MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS AN ACTOR. MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS AN ACTOR.

2234 01:35:19,914 01:35:21,415 THEY JUST SWORE IT WASN'T REALLY THEY JUST SWORE IT WASN'T REALLY

2235 01:35:21,415 01:35:24,418 AN ANIMATED PER-- YOU KNOW, THING. AN ANIMATED PER-- YOU KNOW, THING.

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VAN DYKE: Robert Moses,

president of the fair,

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2237 01:35:26,921 01:35:28,422 PERSUADED THE STATE OF ILLINOIS PERSUADED THE STATE OF ILLINOIS

2238 01:35:28,422 01:35:30,925 TO INCLUDE THE AUDIOANIMATRONICS MODEL TO INCLUDE THE AUDIOANIMATRONICS MODEL

2239 01:35:30,925 01:35:32,927 IN ITS EXHIBIT. IN ITS EXHIBIT.

2240 01:35:32,927 01:35:34,428 WED WAS ALSO COMMISSIONED WED WAS ALSO COMMISSIONED

2241 01:35:34,428 01:35:36,931 TO CREATE THE PAVILION AND ATTRACTIONS FOR FORD TO CREATE THE PAVILION AND ATTRACTIONS FOR FORD

2242 01:35:36,931 01:35:39,433 AND GENERAL ELECTRIC. AND GENERAL ELECTRIC.

2243 01:35:39,934 01:35:42,436 THEN, JUST ONE YEAR BEFORE THE FAIR OPENED, THEN, JUST ONE YEAR BEFORE THE FAIR OPENED,

2244 01:35:42,436 01:35:43,938 PEPSI COLA APPROACHED WED. PEPSI COLA APPROACHED WED.

2245 01:35:43,938 01:35:45,940 ABOUT AN EXHIBIT FOR UNICEF. ABOUT AN EXHIBIT FOR UNICEF.

2246 01:35:45,940 01:35:47,441 HE SAYS, "THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE HE SAYS, "THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE

2247 01:35:47,441 01:35:48,943 OF REAL ESTATE LEFT." OF REAL ESTATE LEFT."

2248 01:35:48,943 01:35:50,444 AND HE SAID, "AT THE WORLD'S FAIR." AND HE SAID, "AT THE WORLD'S FAIR."

2249 01:35:50,444 01:35:51,445 AND HE SAID, "I THINK AND HE SAID, "I THINK

2250 01:35:51,445 01:35:52,947 WE'LL GET THAT PIECE OF REAL ESTATE." WE'LL GET THAT PIECE OF REAL ESTATE."

2251 01:35:52,947 01:35:53,948 AND WE ALL KIND OF LOOKED AT HIM, AND WE ALL KIND OF LOOKED AT HIM,

2252 01:35:54,448 01:35:55,950 AND THERE WAS ONLY 5 OF US IN THERE, AND THERE WAS ONLY 5 OF US IN THERE,

2253 01:35:55,950 01:35:58,452 AND HE SAID, AND HE SAID,

2254 01:35:58,452 01:36:00,454 "I WANT TO DO A LITTLE BOAT RIDE FOR CHILDREN," "I WANT TO DO A LITTLE BOAT RIDE FOR CHILDREN,"

2255 01:36:00,454 01:36:01,455 AND WE THOUGHT, "GOD, AND WE THOUGHT, "GOD,

2256 01:36:01,455 01:36:02,957 "WHAT'S HE TALKING ABOUT? "WHAT'S HE TALKING ABOUT?

2257 01:36:02,957 01:36:04,458 "HERE WE'RE DOING ANIMATRONIC FIGURES, "HERE WE'RE DOING ANIMATRONIC FIGURES,

2258 01:36:04,458 01:36:05,960 AND HE WANTS TO DO A LITTLE BOAT RIDE?" AND HE WANTS TO DO A LITTLE BOAT RIDE?"

2259 01:36:05,960 01:36:06,961 AND WE JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AND WE JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW,

2260 01:36:06,961 01:36:08,462 "WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT?" "WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT?"

2261 01:36:08,462 01:36:10,965 NOW, THE SETS TOOK A LOT OF TIME, NOW, THE SETS TOOK A LOT OF TIME,

2262 01:36:10,965 01:36:12,967 BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO THE VARIOUS NATIONS-- BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO THE VARIOUS NATIONS--

2263 01:36:12,967 01:36:15,469 THE RESEARCH, THE COSTUMES, THE RESEARCH, THE COSTUMES,

2264 01:36:15,469 01:36:16,971 WHICH ALICE WAS DOING. WHICH ALICE WAS DOING.

2265 01:36:17,471 01:36:19,473 WE HAD MONTHS TO DO IT. WE HAD MONTHS TO DO IT.

2266 01:36:19,473 01:36:21,475 BUT WE--ONLY MONTHS. BUT WE--ONLY MONTHS.

2267 01:36:21,475 01:36:23,477 WELL, THERE'S A LONG STORY OF THE EVOLUTION WELL, THERE'S A LONG STORY OF THE EVOLUTION

2268 01:36:23,477 01:36:24,478 OF HOW WE DID SMALL WORLD, OF HOW WE DID SMALL WORLD,

2269 01:36:24,979 01:36:25,980 BUT WE OPENED IT BUT WE OPENED IT

2270 01:36:26,480 01:36:28,482 9 MONTHS TO THE DATE THAT WALT CAME IN, 9 MONTHS TO THE DATE THAT WALT CAME IN,

2271 01:36:28,482 01:36:29,483 AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ATTRACTION AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ATTRACTION

2272 01:36:29,984 01:36:31,986 EVER DESIGNED AND BUILT AND INSTALLED EVER DESIGNED AND BUILT AND INSTALLED

2273 01:36:32,486 01:36:34,989 IN 9 MONTHS. IN 9 MONTHS.

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VAN DYKE: When the fair closed,

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2275 01:36:35,990 01:36:38,993 THE EXHIBITS WERE TRANSFERRED TO DISNEYLAND. THE EXHIBITS WERE TRANSFERRED TO DISNEYLAND.

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SKLAR: Walt got what he wanted.

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2277 01:36:40,494 01:36:42,496 THE GENERAL ELECTRIC CAROUSEL OF PROGRESS THE GENERAL ELECTRIC CAROUSEL OF PROGRESS

2278 01:36:42,496 01:36:46,500 AND THE DINOSAURS FROM THE FORD PAVILION AND THE DINOSAURS FROM THE FORD PAVILION

2279 01:36:46,500 01:36:48,002 AND IT'S A SMALL WORLD, AND IT'S A SMALL WORLD,

2280 01:36:48,002 01:36:49,503 THAT PEPSI COLA PAID FOR, THAT PEPSI COLA PAID FOR,

2281 01:36:49,503 01:36:51,005 AND THE LINCOLN SHOW AND THE LINCOLN SHOW

2282 01:36:51,005 01:36:52,506 ALL CAME BACK TO DISNEYLAND, ALL CAME BACK TO DISNEYLAND,

2283 01:36:52,506 01:36:55,009 AND WE HAD GREAT NEW ENTERTAINMENT. AND WE HAD GREAT NEW ENTERTAINMENT.

2284 01:36:55,009 01:36:56,510 AND THE COMPANIES GOT WHAT THEY WANTED, AND THE COMPANIES GOT WHAT THEY WANTED,

2285 01:36:56,510 01:36:59,013 WHICH WAS THE ASSOCIATION WHICH WAS THE ASSOCIATION

2286 01:36:59,013 01:37:01,515 AND THE GOODWILL FROM THE DISNEY NAME. AND THE GOODWILL FROM THE DISNEY NAME.

2287 01:37:01,515 01:37:04,018 THE ENTIRE DISNEY TEAM HAS BEEN CALLED ON THE ENTIRE DISNEY TEAM HAS BEEN CALLED ON

2288 01:37:04,518 01:37:08,088 TO DEVELOP ENTERTAINING AND EXCITING ATTRACTIONS. TO DEVELOP ENTERTAINING AND EXCITING ATTRACTIONS.

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VAN DYKE: As Walt's attention

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2290 01:37:09,523 01:37:10,524 WAS DIVERTED BY TELEVISION, WAS DIVERTED BY TELEVISION,

2291 01:37:11,025 01:37:12,526 DISNEYLAND, AND THE WORLD'S FAIR, DISNEYLAND, AND THE WORLD'S FAIR,

2292 01:37:12,526 01:37:15,529 MOTION PICTURES WERE NO LONGER HIS PRINCIPAL CONCERN-- MOTION PICTURES WERE NO LONGER HIS PRINCIPAL CONCERN--

2293 01:37:15,529 01:37:19,033 WITH ONE EXCEPTION. WITH ONE EXCEPTION.

2294 01:37:19,033 01:37:21,535 ONE NIGHT, WHEN DIANE WAS SMALL, ONE NIGHT, WHEN DIANE WAS SMALL,

2295 01:37:21,535 01:37:24,038 SHE INTRODUCED HIM TO A BOOK CALLEDMARY POPPINS SHE INTRODUCED HIM TO A BOOK CALLEDMARY POPPINS

2296 01:37:24,538 01:37:28,042 BY THE BRITISH AUTHOR P.L. TRAVERS. BY THE BRITISH AUTHOR P.L. TRAVERS.

2297 01:37:28,042 01:37:30,544 HE PAID A CALL TO HER HUMBLE HOME HE PAID A CALL TO HER HUMBLE HOME

2298 01:37:30,544 01:37:32,046 NEAR KINGS ROAD IN CHELSEA, NEAR KINGS ROAD IN CHELSEA,

2299 01:37:32,046 01:37:34,548 AND THE TWO GOT ALONG VERY WELL. AND THE TWO GOT ALONG VERY WELL.

2300 01:37:35,049 01:37:38,052 HE CLEARLY WORKED HIS CHARM ON MRS. TRAVERS, HE CLEARLY WORKED HIS CHARM ON MRS. TRAVERS,

2301 01:37:38,052 01:37:39,053 BECAUSE BY THE TIME BECAUSE BY THE TIME

2302 01:37:39,053 01:37:40,554 THE MEETING HAD COME TO AN END, THE MEETING HAD COME TO AN END,

2303 01:37:40,554 01:37:44,058 SHE WAS PREPARED TO DISCUSS HOW THE FILM MIGHT BE MADE, SHE WAS PREPARED TO DISCUSS HOW THE FILM MIGHT BE MADE,

2304 01:37:44,058 01:37:46,560 BUT ONLY AS A LIVE-ACTION FILM. BUT ONLY AS A LIVE-ACTION FILM.

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MALTIN: He saw Julie Andrews,

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2306 01:37:48,562 01:37:50,564 AND HE SAID, "THAT'S EXACTLY THE RIGHT WOMAN AND HE SAID, "THAT'S EXACTLY THE RIGHT WOMAN

2307 01:37:50,564 01:37:52,066 TO PLAY MARY POPPINS." TO PLAY MARY POPPINS."

2308 01:37:52,566 01:37:54,068 NOW, THAT WAS NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM. NOW, THAT WAS NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM.

2309 01:37:54,068 01:37:56,070 SHE'D BEEN PASSED OVER BY JACK L. WARNER, SHE'D BEEN PASSED OVER BY JACK L. WARNER,

2310 01:37:56,070 01:37:58,572 A PRETTY CANNY PRODUCER HIMSELF, A PRETTY CANNY PRODUCER HIMSELF,

2311 01:37:58,572 01:38:01,575 TO RECREATE HER ROLE OF ELIZA DOOLITTLE TO RECREATE HER ROLE OF ELIZA DOOLITTLE

2312 01:38:01,575 01:38:03,077 INMY FAIR LADY FOR THE SCREEN. INMY FAIR LADY FOR THE SCREEN.

2313 01:38:03,577 01:38:08,082 DICK VAN DYKE WAS ALREADY SUCCESSFUL ON TELEVISION DICK VAN DYKE WAS ALREADY SUCCESSFUL ON TELEVISION

2314 01:38:08,082 01:38:09,583 AND HAD MADE A SUCCESS AND HAD MADE A SUCCESS

2315 01:38:09,583 01:38:10,584 IN MOVIES LIKE BYE BYE BIRDIE. IN MOVIES LIKE BYE BYE BIRDIE.

2316 01:38:11,085 01:38:12,086 BUT THIS FILM GAVE HIM BUT THIS FILM GAVE HIM

2317 01:38:12,586 01:38:14,088 THE GREATEST ROLE OF HIS CAREER. THE GREATEST ROLE OF HIS CAREER.

2318 01:38:14,588 01:38:15,589 HE WAS LIKE A KID. HE WAS LIKE A KID.

2319 01:38:15,589 01:38:17,591 HE WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT IT, HE WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT IT,

2320 01:38:17,591 01:38:18,592 AND BY THE TIME I LEFT THERE, AND BY THE TIME I LEFT THERE,

2321 01:38:18,592 01:38:19,593 I WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT. I WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT.

2322 01:38:19,593 01:38:21,595 HE HAD ME SOLD. I WANTED TO BE HE HAD ME SOLD. I WANTED TO BE

2323 01:38:21,595 01:38:23,097 A PART OF THAT MOVIE SO MUCH. A PART OF THAT MOVIE SO MUCH.

2324 01:38:23,097 01:38:27,601 HE HAD ALREADY GOTTEN OUT OF THE SHERMAN BROTHERS HE HAD ALREADY GOTTEN OUT OF THE SHERMAN BROTHERS

2325 01:38:27,601 01:38:31,605 DELIGHTFUL SONGS FOR TV SHOWS, FOR RECORDS, DELIGHTFUL SONGS FOR TV SHOWS, FOR RECORDS,

2326 01:38:31,605 01:38:34,608 BUT HE INSPIRED THEM WITHMARY POPPINS. BUT HE INSPIRED THEM WITHMARY POPPINS.

2327 01:38:34,608 01:38:37,611 HE CHALLENGED THEM TO RISE TO NEW HEIGHTS HE CHALLENGED THEM TO RISE TO NEW HEIGHTS

2328 01:38:38,112 01:38:40,114 AND GOT THE VERY BEST THEY HAD TO GIVE. AND GOT THE VERY BEST THEY HAD TO GIVE.

2329 01:38:40,114 01:38:42,116 AND THEN, I THINK, AND THEN, I THINK,

2330 01:38:42,616 01:38:44,118 WELL, GOD MUST HAVE SAT IN THE ROOM WITH US WELL, GOD MUST HAVE SAT IN THE ROOM WITH US

2331 01:38:44,118 01:38:45,619 WHEN WE WROTE THE SONG WHEN WE WROTE THE SONG

2332 01:38:45,619 01:38:48,122 FEED THE BIRDS, TUPPENCE A BAG. FEED THE BIRDS, TUPPENCE A BAG.

2333 01:38:48,122 01:38:49,623 WE FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT IT, WE FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT IT,

2334 01:38:49,623 01:38:50,624 AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS

2335 01:38:50,624 01:38:52,126 WE EVER PLAYED FOR WALT, WE SAID, WE EVER PLAYED FOR WALT, WE SAID,

2336 01:38:52,126 01:38:53,627 WE FEEL THAT THE THEME OF THE PICTURE WE FEEL THAT THE THEME OF THE PICTURE

2337 01:38:53,627 01:38:57,131 COULD BE DOING THAT LITTLE EXTRA SOMETHING. COULD BE DOING THAT LITTLE EXTRA SOMETHING.

2338 01:38:57,131 01:39:00,634 ?? FEED THE BIRDS ?? ?? FEED THE BIRDS ??

2339 01:39:00,634 01:39:03,637 ?? TUPPENCE A BAG ?? ?? TUPPENCE A BAG ??

2340 01:39:03,637 01:39:09,643 ?? TUPPENCE, TUPPENCE, TUPPENCE A BAG ?? ?? TUPPENCE, TUPPENCE, TUPPENCE A BAG ??

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ROBERT: Fridays after work,

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2342 01:39:12,646 01:39:14,648 WE'D COME DOWN TO THE OFFICE WE'D COME DOWN TO THE OFFICE

2343 01:39:15,149 01:39:17,651 AND WE'D TALK A WHILE, AND WE'D TALK A WHILE,

2344 01:39:17,651 01:39:19,653 THEN HE'D LOOK THROUGH THE NORTH WINDOW THEN HE'D LOOK THROUGH THE NORTH WINDOW

2345 01:39:19,653 01:39:24,158 AND HE'D SAY, "PLAY IT," AND HE'D SAY, "PLAY IT,"

2346 01:39:24,658 01:39:27,661 AND WE KNEW WHAT HE MEANT. AND WE KNEW WHAT HE MEANT.

2347 01:39:27,661 01:39:29,663 WE'VE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING, WE'VE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING,

2348 01:39:29,663 01:39:30,664 AND WE'RE VERY SORRY AND WE'RE VERY SORRY

2349 01:39:30,664 01:39:32,166 ABOUT WHAT WE DID TODAY. ABOUT WHAT WE DID TODAY.

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DOTRICE: And for me, as a child,

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2351 01:39:34,668 01:39:38,172 I REMEMBER HIM WANTING ME TO STAY NATURAL AND NORMAL I REMEMBER HIM WANTING ME TO STAY NATURAL AND NORMAL

2352 01:39:38,672 01:39:39,673 AND INNOCENT, AND INNOCENT,

2353 01:39:39,673 01:39:41,175 AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE GIFTS AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE GIFTS

2354 01:39:41,175 01:39:44,178 THAT HE GAVE ME, THAT IT WAS OK TO BE INNOCENT. THAT HE GAVE ME, THAT IT WAS OK TO BE INNOCENT.

2355 01:39:44,178 01:39:46,180 YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PRETEND YOU WERE A GROWNUP. BE A KID. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PRETEND YOU WERE A GROWNUP. BE A KID.

2356 01:39:46,680 01:39:48,682 IT WAS MAGIC. ALL THE TIME, IT WAS MAGIC. IT WAS MAGIC. ALL THE TIME, IT WAS MAGIC.

2357 01:39:49,183 01:39:50,684 [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

2358 01:39:50,684 01:39:51,185 [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

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VAN DYKE: Technically,

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2360 01:39:54,188 01:39:55,689 HE WAS DOING SOME THINGS HE WAS DOING SOME THINGS

2361 01:39:55,689 01:39:57,191 THAT WERE WAY AHEAD OF HIS TIME. THAT WERE WAY AHEAD OF HIS TIME.

2362 01:39:57,691 01:40:00,694 SOME OF THE--WHAT IS NOW BLUE-SCREEN EFFECTS, SOME OF THE--WHAT IS NOW BLUE-SCREEN EFFECTS,

2363 01:40:00,694 01:40:02,196 I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAD EVER DONE BEFORE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAD EVER DONE BEFORE.

2364 01:40:02,696 01:40:03,197 AT THAT TIME, AT THAT TIME,

2365 01:40:03,697 01:40:04,698 IT WAS AGAINST A YELLOW, IT WAS AGAINST A YELLOW,

2366 01:40:05,199 01:40:06,200 SODIUM-LIT SCREEN, SODIUM-LIT SCREEN,

2367 01:40:06,200 01:40:09,703 SO EVERYTHING HAD TO BE VERY, VERY PRECISE. SO EVERYTHING HAD TO BE VERY, VERY PRECISE.

2368 01:40:09,703 01:40:10,704 [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]

2369 01:40:11,205 01:40:15,709 NEVER DID HE ALLOW A MOVIE NEVER DID HE ALLOW A MOVIE

2370 01:40:15,709 01:40:18,712 TO HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGY OR SOME LOOK TO HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGY OR SOME LOOK

2371 01:40:18,712 01:40:21,215 WITHOUT IT BEING IN THE SERVICE OF THE STORY. WITHOUT IT BEING IN THE SERVICE OF THE STORY.

2372 01:40:21,215 01:40:23,217 THE STORY WAS EVERYTHING, THE STORY WAS EVERYTHING,

2373 01:40:23,217 01:40:24,718 AND THOSE GREAT CHARACTERS. AND THOSE GREAT CHARACTERS.

2374 01:40:24,718 01:40:28,222 YOU WANT TO BE SWEPT AWAY IN THIS WORLD OF FANTASY, YOU WANT TO BE SWEPT AWAY IN THIS WORLD OF FANTASY,

2375 01:40:28,222 01:40:30,224 AND THAT'S WHAT WALT ALWAYS DID SO WELL. AND THAT'S WHAT WALT ALWAYS DID SO WELL.

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VAN DYKE:

Mary Poppins went on to garner

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2377 01:40:33,227 01:40:35,729 13 ACADEMY AWARD NOMINATIONS, 13 ACADEMY AWARD NOMINATIONS,

2378 01:40:36,230 01:40:39,233 5 OF WHICH BECAME OSCAR WINS. 5 OF WHICH BECAME OSCAR WINS.

2379 01:40:39,233 01:40:41,735 THE FILM PRODUCED A WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE THE FILM PRODUCED A WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE

2380 01:40:41,735 01:40:43,737 OF $44 MILLION, OF $44 MILLION,

2381 01:40:43,737 01:40:46,240 AN ASTOUNDING AMOUNT IN THE MID-SIXTIES AN ASTOUNDING AMOUNT IN THE MID-SIXTIES

2382 01:40:46,240 01:40:50,244 AND MORE THAN ANY DISNEY FEATURE HAD EVER MADE. AND MORE THAN ANY DISNEY FEATURE HAD EVER MADE.

2383 01:40:50,244 01:40:50,244 AND MORE THAN ANY DISNEY FEATURE HAD EVER MADE. AND MORE THAN ANY DISNEY FEATURE HAD EVER MADE.

2384 01:40:55,249 01:40:58,752 WALT WAS NOW 62 YEARS OF AGE WALT WAS NOW 62 YEARS OF AGE

2385 01:40:58,752 01:41:01,255 AND THE WINNER OF AN UNPRECEDENTED AND THE WINNER OF AN UNPRECEDENTED

2386 01:41:01,255 01:41:03,257 31 ACADEMY AWARDS, 31 ACADEMY AWARDS,

2387 01:41:03,257 01:41:06,260 INCLUDING THE PRESTIGIOUS IRVING THALBERG AWARD, INCLUDING THE PRESTIGIOUS IRVING THALBERG AWARD,

2388 01:41:06,260 01:41:09,763 BUT HE GAVE NO SIGNS OF THINKING ABOUT RETIREMENT. BUT HE GAVE NO SIGNS OF THINKING ABOUT RETIREMENT.

2389 01:41:09,763 01:41:11,765 AS WALT REFLECTED ON HIS LIFE, AS WALT REFLECTED ON HIS LIFE,

2390 01:41:12,266 01:41:14,268 HE WAS SATISFIED WITH WHAT HE'D ACCOMPLISHED. HE WAS SATISFIED WITH WHAT HE'D ACCOMPLISHED.

2391 01:41:14,768 01:41:16,270 WELL, MY GREATEST REWARD, I THINK, WELL, MY GREATEST REWARD, I THINK,

2392 01:41:16,270 01:41:19,273 IS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE IS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE

2393 01:41:19,273 01:41:21,275 TO BUILD THIS WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION. TO BUILD THIS WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.

2394 01:41:21,275 01:41:23,277 I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ENJOY GOOD HEALTH. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ENJOY GOOD HEALTH.

2395 01:41:23,277 01:41:26,280 AND THE WAY I FEEL TODAY, AND THE WAY I FEEL TODAY,

2396 01:41:26,280 01:41:29,283 I FEEL LIKE I CAN STILL GO ON I FEEL LIKE I CAN STILL GO ON

2397 01:41:29,283 01:41:30,284 BEING A PART OF THIS THING BEING A PART OF THIS THING

2398 01:41:30,284 01:41:32,786 AFTER 40-SOME ODD YEARS IN THE BUSINESS. AFTER 40-SOME ODD YEARS IN THE BUSINESS.

2399 01:41:32,786 01:41:36,790 AND ALSO, TO HAVE THE PUBLIC AND ALSO, TO HAVE THE PUBLIC

2400 01:41:36,790 01:41:38,792 APPRECIATE AND ACCEPT APPRECIATE AND ACCEPT

2401 01:41:38,792 01:41:40,294 WHAT I'VE DONE ALL THESE YEARS, WHAT I'VE DONE ALL THESE YEARS,

2402 01:41:40,294 01:41:42,296 THAT IS A GREAT REWARD. THAT IS A GREAT REWARD.

2403 01:41:42,296 01:41:44,298 WELL, PEOPLE OFTEN SAY TO ME, WELL, PEOPLE OFTEN SAY TO ME,

2404 01:41:44,298 01:41:46,300 AND I'M SURE THEY SAID TO WALT, AND I'M SURE THEY SAID TO WALT,

2405 01:41:46,300 01:41:47,801 "ARE YOU AN OPTIMIST?" "ARE YOU AN OPTIMIST?"

2406 01:41:47,801 01:41:49,803 I SAID, "NO, I'M NOT AN OPTIMIST. I SAID, "NO, I'M NOT AN OPTIMIST.

2407 01:41:49,803 01:41:52,306 "I'M AN OPTIMAL BEHAVIORIST, "I'M AN OPTIMAL BEHAVIORIST,

2408 01:41:52,306 01:41:55,809 WHICH MEANS BEHAVING AT THE TOP OF YOUR ENERGY." WHICH MEANS BEHAVING AT THE TOP OF YOUR ENERGY."

2409 01:41:55,809 01:41:57,311 AND THAT WAS WALT DISNEY. AND THAT WAS WALT DISNEY.

2410 01:41:57,811 01:41:59,813 HE BEHAVED EVERY DAY HE BEHAVED EVERY DAY

2411 01:41:59,813 01:42:01,815 TO THE TOP OF HIS ENERGY. TO THE TOP OF HIS ENERGY.

2412 01:42:01,815 01:42:05,319 AND THAT MAKES A FEELING OF OPTIMISM. AND THAT MAKES A FEELING OF OPTIMISM.

2413 01:42:05,319 01:42:05,319 AND THAT MAKES A FEELING OF OPTIMISM. AND THAT MAKES A FEELING OF OPTIMISM.

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VAN DYKE: Like a lot of grandparents,

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2415 01:42:10,824 01:42:13,827 WALT AND LILLY OFTEN BABY-SAT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN. WALT AND LILLY OFTEN BABY-SAT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN.

2416 01:42:13,827 01:42:15,829 AFTER SCHOOL, A STUDIO DRIVER AFTER SCHOOL, A STUDIO DRIVER

2417 01:42:15,829 01:42:18,832 WOULD OFTEN BRING THEM TO HIS OFFICE. WOULD OFTEN BRING THEM TO HIS OFFICE.

2418 01:42:18,832 01:42:21,835 I THINK HE HAD A LITTLE ANTEROOM IN HIS OFFICE, I THINK HE HAD A LITTLE ANTEROOM IN HIS OFFICE,

2419 01:42:21,835 01:42:22,836 WHICH WAS A PRETTY NEAT PLACE WHICH WAS A PRETTY NEAT PLACE

2420 01:42:23,337 01:42:24,338 TO BE DOING YOUR HOMEWORK. TO BE DOING YOUR HOMEWORK.

2421 01:42:24,338 01:42:27,841 HE HAD CABINETS FULL OF MINIATURES, HE HAD CABINETS FULL OF MINIATURES,

2422 01:42:27,841 01:42:30,844 MODELS, AWARDS, CITATIONS. MODELS, AWARDS, CITATIONS.

2423 01:42:30,844 01:42:31,845 IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DISTRACTING. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DISTRACTING.

2424 01:42:32,346 01:42:33,847 WE'D TRY TO GET OUR HOMEWORK DONE, WE'D TRY TO GET OUR HOMEWORK DONE,

2425 01:42:33,847 01:42:35,849 BUT BE FIDDLING AROUND MOST OF THE TIME BUT BE FIDDLING AROUND MOST OF THE TIME

2426 01:42:35,849 01:42:37,351 WITH THE STUFF AT HAND. WITH THE STUFF AT HAND.

2427 01:42:37,351 01:42:39,353 [GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING] [GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]

2428 01:42:39,353 01:42:39,353 [GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING] [GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]

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JOANNA: Right before Christmas,

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2430 01:42:49,363 01:42:51,365 CHRIS GOT A LITTLE RED CAR, CHRIS GOT A LITTLE RED CAR,

2431 01:42:51,365 01:42:53,867 AND THAT WAS OUT AT THE STUDIO. AND THAT WAS OUT AT THE STUDIO.

2432 01:42:53,867 01:42:55,869 BEAUTIFUL LITTLE AUTOPIA CAR. BEAUTIFUL LITTLE AUTOPIA CAR.

2433 01:42:55,869 01:42:57,871 AND HE--WE HAD THAT AND HE--WE HAD THAT

2434 01:42:57,871 01:42:59,873 TO DRIVE AROUND THE LOT IN-- TO DRIVE AROUND THE LOT IN--

2435 01:42:59,873 01:43:01,375 JUST HAD A WONDERFUL TIME. JUST HAD A WONDERFUL TIME.

2436 01:43:01,375 01:43:01,375 JUST HAD A WONDERFUL TIME. JUST HAD A WONDERFUL TIME.

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JENNIFER: It was just an atmosphere

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2438 01:43:08,882 01:43:10,884 OF LOVE AND LAUGHTER. OF LOVE AND LAUGHTER.

2439 01:43:10,884 01:43:14,388 THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WE COULDN'T DO THERE. THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WE COULDN'T DO THERE.

2440 01:43:14,388 01:43:16,890 I FELT THAT THE WHOLE HOUSE WAS ALWAYS OPEN TO US. I FELT THAT THE WHOLE HOUSE WAS ALWAYS OPEN TO US.

2441 01:43:17,391 01:43:19,393 THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, NO DOORS SHUT. THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, NO DOORS SHUT.

2442 01:43:19,393 01:43:19,393 THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, NO DOORS SHUT. THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, NO DOORS SHUT.

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CHRISTOPHER:

Occasionally we'd spend

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2444 01:43:22,396 01:43:23,897 THE NIGHT DOWN IN DISNEYLAND THE NIGHT DOWN IN DISNEYLAND

2445 01:43:24,398 01:43:26,400 IN THE APARTMENT ABOVE THE FIREHOUSE THERE. IN THE APARTMENT ABOVE THE FIREHOUSE THERE.

2446 01:43:26,400 01:43:29,403 AND THAT WAS A FAIRLY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE. AND THAT WAS A FAIRLY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE.

2447 01:43:29,403 01:43:32,906 IT WAS BASICALLY LIKE WAKING UP IN THE MORNING IT WAS BASICALLY LIKE WAKING UP IN THE MORNING

2448 01:43:33,407 01:43:34,908 AND HAVING YOUR DREAM CONTINUE. AND HAVING YOUR DREAM CONTINUE.

2449 01:43:35,409 01:43:38,412 WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THAT LITTLE APARTMENT. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THAT LITTLE APARTMENT.

2450 01:43:38,412 01:43:40,914 I JUST--I CAN REMEMBER SITTING THERE, I JUST--I CAN REMEMBER SITTING THERE,

2451 01:43:40,914 01:43:43,917 HE DOING THE THINGS HE NEEDED TO BE DOING, HE DOING THE THINGS HE NEEDED TO BE DOING,

2452 01:43:43,917 01:43:45,419 WHETHER IT WAS READING WHETHER IT WAS READING

2453 01:43:45,419 01:43:48,021 OR JUST SITTING OUT ON THE PATIO. OR JUST SITTING OUT ON THE PATIO.

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VAN DYKE: Walt was thinking

of the world

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2455 01:43:49,423 01:43:52,926 HIS GRANDCHILDREN WOULD GROW UP IN. HIS GRANDCHILDREN WOULD GROW UP IN.

2456 01:43:52,926 01:43:54,928 WHAT IF ALL THAT WED HAD LEARNED WHAT IF ALL THAT WED HAD LEARNED

2457 01:43:54,928 01:43:57,431 ABOUT PEOPLE AND SPACE AND TRANSPORTATION ABOUT PEOPLE AND SPACE AND TRANSPORTATION

2458 01:43:57,431 01:44:01,435 COULD BE PUT TO GOOD USE, NOT ONLY FOR A THEME PARK, COULD BE PUT TO GOOD USE, NOT ONLY FOR A THEME PARK,

2459 01:44:01,435 01:44:06,440 BUT A COMMUNITY, A REAL CITY, AS WELL? BUT A COMMUNITY, A REAL CITY, AS WELL?

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"BUZZ" PRICE: He wanted to try

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2461 01:44:07,941 01:44:10,444 GOING BEYOND THE PARK EXPERIENCE. GOING BEYOND THE PARK EXPERIENCE.

2462 01:44:10,444 01:44:13,947 HE WANTED TO TRY IMPROVING THE ENVIRONMENT, HE WANTED TO TRY IMPROVING THE ENVIRONMENT,

2463 01:44:13,947 01:44:16,450 THE URBAN SETTING, THE URBAN SETTING,

2464 01:44:16,950 01:44:18,452 AND HE WAS FULL OF IDEAS AND HE WAS FULL OF IDEAS

2465 01:44:18,452 01:44:19,953 ON WHAT THAT PLACE WOULD BE LIKE. ON WHAT THAT PLACE WOULD BE LIKE.

2466 01:44:20,454 01:44:21,455 IT WOULD NOT BE JUST A PARK. IT WOULD NOT BE JUST A PARK.

2467 01:44:21,955 01:44:25,959 IT WOULD BE IN THE SETTING OF AN URBAN EXPERIMENT. IT WOULD BE IN THE SETTING OF AN URBAN EXPERIMENT.

2468 01:44:25,959 01:44:28,462 EPCOT WILL TAKE ITS CUE EPCOT WILL TAKE ITS CUE

2469 01:44:28,462 01:44:31,465 FROM THE NEW IDEAS AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES FROM THE NEW IDEAS AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES

2470 01:44:31,465 01:44:32,966 THAT ARE NOW EMERGING THAT ARE NOW EMERGING

2471 01:44:32,966 01:44:35,469 FROM THE CREATIVE CENTERS OF AMERICAN INDUSTRY. FROM THE CREATIVE CENTERS OF AMERICAN INDUSTRY.

2472 01:44:35,969 01:44:37,971 IT WILL BE A COMMUNITY OF TOMORROW IT WILL BE A COMMUNITY OF TOMORROW

2473 01:44:37,971 01:44:39,973 THAT WILL NEVER BE COMPLETED, THAT WILL NEVER BE COMPLETED,

2474 01:44:39,973 01:44:41,975 BUT WILL ALWAYS BE INTRODUCING BUT WILL ALWAYS BE INTRODUCING

2475 01:44:41,975 01:44:43,977 AND TESTING AND DEMONSTRATING AND TESTING AND DEMONSTRATING

2476 01:44:43,977 01:44:46,480 NEW MATERIALS AND NEW SYSTEMS. NEW MATERIALS AND NEW SYSTEMS.

2477 01:44:46,480 01:44:46,480 NEW MATERIALS AND NEW SYSTEMS. NEW MATERIALS AND NEW SYSTEMS.

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VAN DYKE: Walt's design for EPCOT...

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2479 01:44:51,485 01:44:54,488 THE EXPERIMENTAL PROTOTYPE COMMUNITY OF TOMORROW-- THE EXPERIMENTAL PROTOTYPE COMMUNITY OF TOMORROW--

2480 01:44:54,988 01:44:57,991 CALLED FOR A CENTRAL HOTEL, AN ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLEX CALLED FOR A CENTRAL HOTEL, AN ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLEX

2481 01:44:57,991 01:45:00,994 SURROUNDED BY A LARGE SUBURBAN AREA. SURROUNDED BY A LARGE SUBURBAN AREA.

2482 01:45:00,994 01:45:02,996 EARLY SKETCHES GIVE SOME IDEA EARLY SKETCHES GIVE SOME IDEA

2483 01:45:02,996 01:45:05,499 WHAT THE AREA WOULD LOOK LIKE. WHAT THE AREA WOULD LOOK LIKE.

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MAN: That was the idea.

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2485 01:45:07,000 01:45:09,503 THIS WOULD BE THE GENESIS PLACE OF... THIS WOULD BE THE GENESIS PLACE OF...

2486 01:45:09,503 01:45:13,006 WHERE, TRULY, WE AS A BIG WORLD CIVILIZATION WHERE, TRULY, WE AS A BIG WORLD CIVILIZATION

2487 01:45:13,006 01:45:15,509 COULD ACTUALLY MAKE A REALLY NICE PLACE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE A REALLY NICE PLACE

2488 01:45:15,509 01:45:16,510 TO GO LIVE. TO GO LIVE.

2489 01:45:16,510 01:45:17,010 TO GO LIVE. TO GO LIVE.

2490 01:45:19,513 01:45:22,516 FLORIDA CAME TO THE FOREFRONT VERY QUICKLY FLORIDA CAME TO THE FOREFRONT VERY QUICKLY

2491 01:45:22,516 01:45:24,017 FOR SEVERAL REASONS. FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

2492 01:45:24,017 01:45:27,521 ONE--IT HAD A GOOD TOURIST POPULATION-- ONE--IT HAD A GOOD TOURIST POPULATION--

2493 01:45:27,521 01:45:29,022 17 MILLION TOURISTS. 17 MILLION TOURISTS.

2494 01:45:29,022 01:45:32,025 2--IT HAD GOOD TRANSPORTATION. 2--IT HAD GOOD TRANSPORTATION.

2495 01:45:32,025 01:45:36,029 3--A LOT OF LAND AT A REASONABLE PRICE. 3--A LOT OF LAND AT A REASONABLE PRICE.

2496 01:45:36,029 01:45:38,532 HE, REALLY, IS THE PERSON THAT SELECTED THE LOCATION. HE, REALLY, IS THE PERSON THAT SELECTED THE LOCATION.

2497 01:45:39,032 01:45:40,534 AND I CAN REMEMBER HIM SAYING TO ME, AND I CAN REMEMBER HIM SAYING TO ME,

2498 01:45:41,034 01:45:42,536 "DICK, JUST THINK-- THAT'LL BE OUR GREEN BELT, "DICK, JUST THINK-- THAT'LL BE OUR GREEN BELT,

2499 01:45:42,536 01:45:45,038 AND NOBODY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO BUILD ON IT. AND NOBODY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO BUILD ON IT.

2500 01:45:45,539 01:45:47,541 SO THAT'S WHAT EPCOT IS-- SO THAT'S WHAT EPCOT IS--

2501 01:45:47,541 01:45:50,544 AN EXPERIMENTAL PROTOTYPE COMMUNITY AN EXPERIMENTAL PROTOTYPE COMMUNITY

2502 01:45:50,544 01:45:53,547 THAT WILL ALWAYS BE IN A STATE OF BECOMING. THAT WILL ALWAYS BE IN A STATE OF BECOMING.

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VAN DYKE: Another major project

at this time was CalArts.

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2504 01:45:57,551 01:45:59,052 SINCE THE LATE FIFTIES, SINCE THE LATE FIFTIES,

2505 01:45:59,052 01:46:01,555 WALT HAD BEEN SUPPORTING THE SCHOOL. WALT HAD BEEN SUPPORTING THE SCHOOL.

2506 01:46:01,555 01:46:04,057 NOW HE ENVISIONED COMBINING CHOUINARD NOW HE ENVISIONED COMBINING CHOUINARD

2507 01:46:04,057 01:46:06,560 WITH THE LOS ANGELES CONSERVATORY OF MUSIC WITH THE LOS ANGELES CONSERVATORY OF MUSIC

2508 01:46:07,060 01:46:08,562 TO CREATE A SCHOOL WHERE THE ARTS-- TO CREATE A SCHOOL WHERE THE ARTS--

2509 01:46:09,062 01:46:11,565 MUSIC, ART, FILM, DANCE, AND THEATER-- MUSIC, ART, FILM, DANCE, AND THEATER--

2510 01:46:11,565 01:46:14,067 WOULD COME TOGETHER AND INSPIRE EACH OTHER-- WOULD COME TOGETHER AND INSPIRE EACH OTHER--

2511 01:46:14,568 01:46:17,571 SOMETHING WHICH WALT CALLED CROSS-POLLINATION. SOMETHING WHICH WALT CALLED CROSS-POLLINATION.

2512 01:46:17,571 01:46:17,571 SOMETHING WHICH WALT CALLED CROSS-POLLINATION. SOMETHING WHICH WALT CALLED CROSS-POLLINATION.

2513 01:46:26,613 01:46:30,117 IN THE SUMMER OF 1966, WALT ORGANIZED IN THE SUMMER OF 1966, WALT ORGANIZED

2514 01:46:30,117 01:46:33,620 A VACATION FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY. A VACATION FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

2515 01:46:33,620 01:46:37,124 HE RENTED A 140-FOOT YACHT COMPLETE WITH CREW HE RENTED A 140-FOOT YACHT COMPLETE WITH CREW

2516 01:46:37,124 01:46:40,627 FOR A LEISURELY CRUISE FROM VANCOUVER. FOR A LEISURELY CRUISE FROM VANCOUVER.

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DIANE: And it was so wonderful,

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2518 01:46:42,129 01:46:45,132 BECAUSE IT WAS ALL MY CHILDREN BECAUSE IT WAS ALL MY CHILDREN

2519 01:46:45,132 01:46:48,135 FROM CHRIS DOWN TO LITTLE 2-YEAR-OLD RONNIE, FROM CHRIS DOWN TO LITTLE 2-YEAR-OLD RONNIE,

2520 01:46:48,635 01:46:50,637 SHARON AND BOB, MY SISTER AND BROTHER-IN-LAW, SHARON AND BOB, MY SISTER AND BROTHER-IN-LAW,

2521 01:46:50,637 01:46:53,140 AND THEIR LITTLE BABY VICTORIA, AND THEIR LITTLE BABY VICTORIA,

2522 01:46:53,140 01:46:56,143 WHO WAS ABOUT 6 MONTHS OLD, WHO WAS ABOUT 6 MONTHS OLD,

2523 01:46:56,143 01:46:58,145 AND MOTHER AND DAD, ALL ON THIS BOAT. AND MOTHER AND DAD, ALL ON THIS BOAT.

2524 01:46:58,145 01:47:01,148 WE CELEBRATED TAMMY'S BIRTHDAY, WE CELEBRATED TAMMY'S BIRTHDAY,

2525 01:47:01,148 01:47:03,150 JULY 3, ON THAT BOAT, JULY 3, ON THAT BOAT,

2526 01:47:03,150 01:47:05,152 AND THEN MY PARENTS' WEDDING ANNIVERSARY AND THEN MY PARENTS' WEDDING ANNIVERSARY

2527 01:47:05,152 01:47:06,153 10 DAYS LATER. 10 DAYS LATER.

2528 01:47:06,153 01:47:06,153 10 DAYS LATER. 10 DAYS LATER.

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VAN DYKE: When Ron and Walt

found a quiet moment to talk,

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2530 01:47:12,659 01:47:14,661 WALT TOLD HIM HE WAS GOING TO FOCUS ON EPCOT WALT TOLD HIM HE WAS GOING TO FOCUS ON EPCOT

2531 01:47:14,661 01:47:16,163 AND CALARTS. AND CALARTS.

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RON: Walt always looked

for new challenges,

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2533 01:47:18,665 01:47:23,670 AND EPCOT WAS HIS NEW AND FRESH CHALLENGE. AND EPCOT WAS HIS NEW AND FRESH CHALLENGE.

2534 01:47:23,670 01:47:25,672 AND HE ONCE SAID TO ME, HE SAID, AND HE ONCE SAID TO ME, HE SAID,

2535 01:47:25,672 01:47:27,174 "YOU KNOW, I THINK I NEED ABOUT 15 YEARS. "YOU KNOW, I THINK I NEED ABOUT 15 YEARS.

2536 01:47:27,674 01:47:28,675 "IF I COULD HAVE 15 YEARS, "IF I COULD HAVE 15 YEARS,

2537 01:47:28,675 01:47:30,677 I CAN COMPLETE THIS PROJECT." I CAN COMPLETE THIS PROJECT."

2538 01:47:30,677 01:47:32,179 AND AT THAT TIME, HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, AND AT THAT TIME, HE SAID, "YOU KNOW,

2539 01:47:32,679 01:47:35,682 "I'M JUST GONNA TURN OVER THE FILMS TO YOU PEOPLE. "I'M JUST GONNA TURN OVER THE FILMS TO YOU PEOPLE.

2540 01:47:35,682 01:47:37,184 "I THINK YOU CAN DO A GOOD JOB. "I THINK YOU CAN DO A GOOD JOB.

2541 01:47:37,184 01:47:38,685 "I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOU, "I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOU,

2542 01:47:38,685 01:47:41,188 BUT I HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON EPCOT." BUT I HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON EPCOT."

2543 01:47:41,188 01:47:41,188 BUT I HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON EPCOT." BUT I HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON EPCOT."

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VAN DYKE: WED was also busy

designing a ski resort

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2545 01:47:50,197 01:47:53,700 CALLED MINERAL KING NEAR SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK. CALLED MINERAL KING NEAR SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK.

2546 01:47:53,700 01:47:55,702 WALT'S INTEREST IN SUCH A RESORT WALT'S INTEREST IN SUCH A RESORT

2547 01:47:55,702 01:47:57,204 WAS SPARKED BY HIS ROLE WAS SPARKED BY HIS ROLE

2548 01:47:57,204 01:47:58,705 AS THE MASTER IN CHARGE OF PAGEANTRY AS THE MASTER IN CHARGE OF PAGEANTRY

2549 01:47:59,206 01:48:02,209 DURING THE 1960 WINTER OLYMPICS IN SQUAW VALLEY. DURING THE 1960 WINTER OLYMPICS IN SQUAW VALLEY.

2550 01:48:02,209 01:48:04,711 IN 1965, IN 1965,

2551 01:48:05,212 01:48:07,714 THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE ACCEPTED DISNEY'S BID THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE ACCEPTED DISNEY'S BID

2552 01:48:08,215 01:48:10,717 FOR A 30-YEAR LEASE ON THE PROPERTY. FOR A 30-YEAR LEASE ON THE PROPERTY.

2553 01:48:11,218 01:48:14,221 AND IN SEPTEMBER OF 1966, AND IN SEPTEMBER OF 1966,

2554 01:48:14,221 01:48:17,724 WALT JOINED GOVERNOR EDMUND G. BROWN WALT JOINED GOVERNOR EDMUND G. BROWN

2555 01:48:17,724 01:48:20,727 FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE ON THE PROJECT. FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE ON THE PROJECT.

2556 01:48:20,727 01:48:23,730 WE HOPE THAT WE CAN DEVELOP IT IN SUCH A WAY WE HOPE THAT WE CAN DEVELOP IT IN SUCH A WAY

2557 01:48:23,730 01:48:25,232 THAT THE FAMILIES CAN COME UP HERE THAT THE FAMILIES CAN COME UP HERE

2558 01:48:25,732 01:48:26,733 AND HAVE ACCESS AND HAVE ACCESS

2559 01:48:26,733 01:48:30,237 TO THIS GREAT, WONDERFUL WILDERNESS AREA. TO THIS GREAT, WONDERFUL WILDERNESS AREA.

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VAN DYKE: Journalists who

attended the event

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were struck by Walt's appearance.

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Walt looked gaunt and drawn,

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but no one suspected

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there was something

far more serious ahead.

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I was doing a storyboard,

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and the room was filled

with my crew and so forth,

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and he got in a coughing jag,

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and his face turned red.

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Anyway, he kind of bent over,

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and I said, "For gosh sakes, Walt,

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why don't you give up smoking?"

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And he said, "Well, guys,

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a guy's gotta have

a few vices, don't he?"

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Something like that.

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DIANE: He was going to have surgery

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on the back of his neck. That was set.

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They were going to fix this problem

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that the old polo injury was causing,

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and my mother came

to my door one morning.

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She said,

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"They took an x-ray

of your father's lung,

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and they found a lump

the size of a walnut."

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VAN DYKE:

Walt's doctors recommended

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2584 01:49:30,797 01:49:33,800 THAT HE IMMEDIATELY UNDERGO SURGERY.

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Then we turned to him and said,

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"Are you worried about

going to the hospital?"

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And Walt says,

"You're damn right I am."

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And we thought he was going in

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because of his old polo injury,

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but, uh, that wasn't it.

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So we were all there sitting in the room,

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and the surgeon

came in after the surgery,

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and he said, "Well,

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"that was just as I suspected.

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"uh, it had...

The tumor had metastasized.

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I give him six months to two years."

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Of course, it was like

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dropping a bomb in that room.

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To me, the most poignant story

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of this whole last time

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is his last visit to the studio lot.

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Just looking at this place

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that he had built,

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there people that he brought along,

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done these amazing things,

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and knowing he had

to leave it all behind.

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And then he stopped

about 20 feet away,

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and he turned,

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and he said, "Good-bye, Marc."

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He never said that to anybody before.

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HENCH: Roy Disney explained to me

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that he, in his last visit

to Walt in the hospital,

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he said, "I knew I was

gonna lose my brother then."

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He said, "Because here he was,

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he was talking very excited

about the Florida project."

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Walt saw the complete map, evidently,

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of the Florida project

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on the ceiling above his bed.

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(ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING)

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DIANE: And as we got off

the elevator on the floor,

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I saw Ron go striding into Dad's room

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and then come out

with his arms up like that,

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as though someone pushed him back,

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and, uh, when we went into the room,

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I don't really...

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Dad, you know,

his hands were on his chest,

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and he was gone.

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And Uncle Roy was standing

at the foot of his bed,

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and he was massaging

one of Dad's feet,

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just kind of caressing it,

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and he was talking to him, you know?

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I don't know, it sounded something like,

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"Well, kid, this is the end, I guess."

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You know, and that sort of thing.

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And, uh, and I saw his love

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as I've never seen it before.

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VAN DYKE: It was 9:30 A.M.

on December 15th,

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just 10 days after his 65th birthday.

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I cried in my wife's lap.

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It put an end to a marvelous era.

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I lay awake all night long.

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I couldn't sleep,

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trying to think what's

going to happen next.

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EBSEN: They announced

Walt's passing,

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and then they cut in

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Julie London's voice,

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and she's singing

The Mickey Mouse Club song.

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Um...

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M-I-C

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K-E-Y

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M-O-U-S-E

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(SIGHS)

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I had to pull off the road...

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because my tears were blinding...

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my ability to drive.

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(MUSIC PLAYING)

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VAN DYKE: The news of his death

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2667 01:53:55,061 01:53:57,564 REVERBERATED AROUND THE WORLD. REVERBERATED AROUND THE WORLD.

2668 01:53:57,564 01:54:00,066 NEWSPAPERS FROM NEW YORK TO PARIS NEWSPAPERS FROM NEW YORK TO PARIS

2669 01:54:00,066 01:54:02,068 REFLECTED ON HIS IMMENSE ROLE REFLECTED ON HIS IMMENSE ROLE

2670 01:54:02,068 01:54:05,071 IN THE SHAPING OF 20th CENTURY ENTERTAINMENT. IN THE SHAPING OF 20th CENTURY ENTERTAINMENT.

2671 01:54:05,071 01:54:07,073 JUST AN ORDINARY MAN JUST AN ORDINARY MAN

2672 01:54:07,073 01:54:09,075 WITH THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY TALENT WITH THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY TALENT

2673 01:54:09,075 01:54:12,579 OF MAKING YOU FEEL THAT YOU WERE IMPORTANT, OF MAKING YOU FEEL THAT YOU WERE IMPORTANT,

2674 01:54:12,579 01:54:15,081 WHERE, IN ACTUAL FACT, HE WAS THE ONE. WHERE, IN ACTUAL FACT, HE WAS THE ONE.

2675 01:54:15,582 01:54:19,085 THIS WAS A MAN THAT HAD ONE FOOT IN THE PAST, THIS WAS A MAN THAT HAD ONE FOOT IN THE PAST,

2676 01:54:19,085 01:54:21,087 BECAUSE HE LOVED THE NOSTALGIA BECAUSE HE LOVED THE NOSTALGIA

2677 01:54:21,087 01:54:23,590 AND USED IT IN MANY MOTION PICTURES AND USED IT IN MANY MOTION PICTURES

2678 01:54:23,590 01:54:24,591 AND TELEVISION SHOWS AND TELEVISION SHOWS

2679 01:54:24,591 01:54:26,593 TO GET THROUGH TO THE PUBLIC, TO GET THROUGH TO THE PUBLIC,

2680 01:54:27,093 01:54:28,595 AND ONE FOOT IN THE FUTURE, AND ONE FOOT IN THE FUTURE,

2681 01:54:28,595 01:54:31,097 BECAUSE HE LOVED THE TECHNOLOGY. BECAUSE HE LOVED THE TECHNOLOGY.

2682 01:54:31,097 01:54:34,601 YOU PUT HIM--YOU DROP HIM IN A GLASS OF WATER YOU PUT HIM--YOU DROP HIM IN A GLASS OF WATER

2683 01:54:34,601 01:54:36,102 AND LIKE A JAPANESE FLOWER, AND LIKE A JAPANESE FLOWER,

2684 01:54:36,603 01:54:39,105 HE EXPANDS IN ALL DIRECTIONS. HE EXPANDS IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

2685 01:54:39,105 01:54:42,108 SO, IT'S THE EXPANSIVE DISNEY SO, IT'S THE EXPANSIVE DISNEY

2686 01:54:42,108 01:54:45,111 THAT'S MOVED OUT IN THE WORLD IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. THAT'S MOVED OUT IN THE WORLD IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

2687 01:54:45,111 01:54:47,614 AND IT'S DONE NOTHING BUT GOOD. AND IT'S DONE NOTHING BUT GOOD.

2688 01:54:48,114 01:54:52,619 I MEAN, HERE WAS A MAN WHO HAD SCANT EDUCATION, I MEAN, HERE WAS A MAN WHO HAD SCANT EDUCATION,

2689 01:54:52,619 01:54:55,121 YOU KNOW? HIS PARENTS WERE NOT EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? HIS PARENTS WERE NOT EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE,

2690 01:54:55,121 01:54:57,123 EXCEPT IN THEIR CHARACTER. EXCEPT IN THEIR CHARACTER.

2691 01:54:57,123 01:55:00,627 HE WAS NOT MUCH OF AN ARTIST, HE WAS NOT MUCH OF AN ARTIST,

2692 01:55:01,127 01:55:05,131 BUT SOMEWHERE CAME THIS AMAZING FACTOR BUT SOMEWHERE CAME THIS AMAZING FACTOR

2693 01:55:05,131 01:55:09,636 OF KNOWING WHAT DRAMA AND COMEDY WAS. OF KNOWING WHAT DRAMA AND COMEDY WAS.

2694 01:55:09,636 01:55:13,640 AND SO I'M AFRAID WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, AND SO I'M AFRAID WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SAY,

2695 01:55:13,640 01:55:17,143 "WELL, WALT DISNEY-- GENIUS. PERIOD." "WELL, WALT DISNEY-- GENIUS. PERIOD."

2696 01:55:17,143 01:55:19,145 [ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING] [ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING]

2697 01:55:19,145 01:55:19,145 [ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING] [ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING]

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DISNEY: The park means a lot to me.

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2699 01:56:11,597 01:56:14,100 IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER BE FINISHED, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER BE FINISHED,

2700 01:56:14,100 01:56:18,104 SOMETHING THAT OUGHT TO KEEP DEVELOPING, SOMETHING THAT OUGHT TO KEEP DEVELOPING,

2701 01:56:18,104 01:56:20,106 KEEP PLUSSING AND ADDING TO. KEEP PLUSSING AND ADDING TO.

2702 01:56:20,106 01:56:22,608 IT'S ALIVE, A LIVE BREATHING THING IT'S ALIVE, A LIVE BREATHING THING

2703 01:56:22,608 01:56:24,110 THAT WHEN WE CHANGE IT, THAT WHEN WE CHANGE IT,

2704 01:56:24,110 01:56:27,613 THE THING'LL GET MORE BEAUTIFUL EVERY YEAR. THE THING'LL GET MORE BEAUTIFUL EVERY YEAR.

2705 01:56:27,613 01:56:27,613 THE THING'LL GET MORE BEAUTIFUL EVERY YEAR. THE THING'LL GET MORE BEAUTIFUL EVERY YEAR.

2706 01:56:36,122 01:56:38,624 AND WE SAID, "WALT, WE GOT THE IDEA FOR THE ENDING. AND WE SAID, "WALT, WE GOT THE IDEA FOR THE ENDING.

2707 01:56:38,624 01:56:40,126 IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. THIS IS WHAT IT IS." IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. THIS IS WHAT IT IS."

2708 01:56:40,126 01:56:43,129 AND SO WE SAT DOWN AND DESCRIBED WHAT IT WOULD BE. AND SO WE SAT DOWN AND DESCRIBED WHAT IT WOULD BE.

2709 01:56:43,129 01:56:45,631 WHEN WE'RE THROUGH, HE LOOKED AT US AND SAID, WHEN WE'RE THROUGH, HE LOOKED AT US AND SAID,

2710 01:56:45,631 01:56:49,135 "YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD ENDING OF A BROADWAY SHOW. "YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD ENDING OF A BROADWAY SHOW.

2711 01:56:49,135 01:56:50,636 THAT'S A BROADWAY SHOW SONG." THAT'S A BROADWAY SHOW SONG."

2712 01:56:50,636 01:56:52,138 I MEAN, GOSH, HE LIKED THE IDEA, I MEAN, GOSH, HE LIKED THE IDEA,

2713 01:56:52,138 01:56:54,140 BUT HE DIDN'T LIKE STICKS, PAPER, AND STRINGS. BUT HE DIDN'T LIKE STICKS, PAPER, AND STRINGS.

2714 01:56:54,140 01:56:57,643 TSK. WELL, I SUPPOSE I SHOULD TELL HIM TO GO FLY A KITE. TSK. WELL, I SUPPOSE I SHOULD TELL HIM TO GO FLY A KITE.

2715 01:56:57,643 01:56:59,145 HE'D SAY, "YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S IT. HE'D SAY, "YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S IT.

2716 01:56:59,145 01:57:01,647 LET'S GO FLY A KITE. THAT'S--THERE'S THE TITLE." LET'S GO FLY A KITE. THAT'S--THERE'S THE TITLE."

2717 01:57:01,647 01:57:01,647 LET'S GO FLY A KITE. THAT'S--THERE'S THE TITLE." LET'S GO FLY A KITE. THAT'S--THERE'S THE TITLE."

2718 01:57:03,149 01:57:05,151 SO HE ASKED ME TO COME IN AND TALK TO HIM, WHICH I DID, SO HE ASKED ME TO COME IN AND TALK TO HIM, WHICH I DID,

2719 01:57:05,151 01:57:06,652 AND HE SAID... AND HE SAID...

2720 01:57:06,652 01:57:08,654 HE SAID, "WELL, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING? HE SAID, "WELL, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING?

2721 01:57:08,654 01:57:09,655 DON'T YOU ENJOY IT HERE?" DON'T YOU ENJOY IT HERE?"

2722 01:57:09,655 01:57:10,656 I SAID, "YES." I SAID, "YES."

2723 01:57:10,656 01:57:11,657 BUT I SAID, "ACTUALLY, BUT I SAID, "ACTUALLY,

2724 01:57:12,158 01:57:13,159 "THERE'S ONLY ONE JOB HERE WORTH HAVING, "THERE'S ONLY ONE JOB HERE WORTH HAVING,

2725 01:57:13,159 01:57:14,660 AND THAT'S YOURS." AND THAT'S YOURS."

2726 01:57:15,161 01:57:16,662 AND HE SAID, "THAT'S TRUE. ALL RIGHT." AND HE SAID, "THAT'S TRUE. ALL RIGHT."

2727 01:57:16,662 01:57:18,664 HE SAID, YOU KNOW... HE SAID, YOU KNOW...

2728 01:57:18,664 01:57:22,168 AND HE SAID, "WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S FILLED." AND HE SAID, "WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S FILLED."

2729 01:57:22,168 01:57:22,668 AND HE SAID, "WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S FILLED." AND HE SAID, "WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S FILLED."

2730 01:57:26,672 01:57:28,674 THE ROADS WERE SO FULL OF SNOW THE ROADS WERE SO FULL OF SNOW

2731 01:57:28,674 01:57:30,676 THAT SOME OF THE CBS ANNOUNCERS THAT SOME OF THE CBS ANNOUNCERS

2732 01:57:30,676 01:57:33,679 COULDN'T EVEN GET UP TO THE LOCATION IN SQUAW VALLEY, COULDN'T EVEN GET UP TO THE LOCATION IN SQUAW VALLEY,

2733 01:57:33,679 01:57:35,681 AND I HAD TO BE PRESSED INTO SERVICE AND I HAD TO BE PRESSED INTO SERVICE

2734 01:57:35,681 01:57:37,683 TO DO SOME OF THE BROADCASTING TO DO SOME OF THE BROADCASTING

2735 01:57:37,683 01:57:40,186 THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP

2736 01:57:40,186 01:57:41,687 WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

2737 01:57:41,687 01:57:43,189 BUT WALT WAS UNFAZED BY IT. BUT WALT WAS UNFAZED BY IT.

2738 01:57:43,189 01:57:45,191 HE SAYS, "WE'LL JUST GO RIGHT AHEAD, HE SAYS, "WE'LL JUST GO RIGHT AHEAD,

2739 01:57:45,191 01:57:47,193 "AND WITH ANY KIND OF LUCK, "AND WITH ANY KIND OF LUCK,

2740 01:57:47,693 01:57:49,195 "THE WEATHER WILL CLEAR, "THE WEATHER WILL CLEAR,

2741 01:57:49,195 01:57:50,696 AND WE'LL GET IT ON THE AIR." AND WE'LL GET IT ON THE AIR."

2742 01:57:50,696 01:57:54,200 I WOULD SAY THAT 5 MINUTES TO 10 MINUTES OF 10:00, I WOULD SAY THAT 5 MINUTES TO 10 MINUTES OF 10:00,

2743 01:57:54,200 01:57:56,202 IT STOPPED SNOWING, IT STOPPED SNOWING,

2744 01:57:56,202 01:57:57,703 AND IT BEGAN TO LIGHTEN UP. AND IT BEGAN TO LIGHTEN UP.

2745 01:57:57,703 01:57:59,205 WE WENT ON THE AIR. WE WENT ON THE AIR.

2746 01:57:59,205 01:58:01,207 WE DID A 30-MINUTE BROADCAST, WE DID A 30-MINUTE BROADCAST,

2747 01:58:01,207 01:58:03,209 AND 5 MINUTES AFTER WE WERE OVER, AND 5 MINUTES AFTER WE WERE OVER,

2748 01:58:03,709 01:58:05,211 IT STARTED TO SNOW AGAIN. IT STARTED TO SNOW AGAIN.

2749 01:58:05,211 01:58:07,213 AND I SAID, "WALT... AND I SAID, "WALT...

2750 01:58:07,213 01:58:08,714 YOU HAVE A CONNECTION." YOU HAVE A CONNECTION."

2751 01:58:08,714 01:58:11,717 HE SAYS, "NO. IT'S JUST IF YOU LIVE RIGHT, HE SAYS, "NO. IT'S JUST IF YOU LIVE RIGHT,

2752 01:58:11,717 01:58:14,220 THINGS HAPPEN RIGHT." THINGS HAPPEN RIGHT."

2753 01:58:14,220 01:58:14,220 THINGS HAPPEN RIGHT." THINGS HAPPEN RIGHT."

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FLETCHER:

If you had it to do over again,

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2755 01:58:19,225 01:58:22,228 WOULD YOU DO ANY PART OF IT DIFFERENTLY? WOULD YOU DO ANY PART OF IT DIFFERENTLY?

2756 01:58:22,228 01:58:25,231 WELL, IF I HAD IT TO DO OVER AGAIN, WELL, IF I HAD IT TO DO OVER AGAIN,

2757 01:58:25,731 01:58:26,732 I THINK, UH-- I THINK, UH--

2758 01:58:26,732 01:58:29,235 NO, I DON'T THINK I WOULD. NO, I DON'T THINK I WOULD.

2759 01:58:29,235 01:58:31,237 [CHUCKLES] [CHUCKLES]

2760 01:58:31,237 01:58:32,238 I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW.

2761 01:58:32,238 01:58:33,739 I HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT OVER AGAIN. I HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT OVER AGAIN.

2762 01:58:33,739 01:58:35,741 [CHUCKLES] [CHUCKLES]

2763 01:58:35,741 01:58:35,741 [CHUCKLES]